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(Light Sc) Pineapple 3 - (Life L) killsdazombies 0 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39544.msg491520#msg491520
« on: May 02, 2012, 08:45:45 pm »
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To be honest, I didn't expect much with this slow CC-less deck, but I think I've seen the Light. ^^

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Re: (Light Sc) Pineapple 3 - (Life L) killsdazombies 0 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39544.msg491522#msg491522
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2012, 08:47:18 pm »
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 OP pretty much explains it all....


Killsdazombies
Wins: 692
Winrate: 69.2 %
Average TTW: 10.966763005780347
EMs: 2
EM rate: 0.28901734104046245 %

Pineapple
Wins: 308
Winrate: 30.8 %
Average TTW: 10.672077922077921
EMs: 82
EM rate: 26.623376623376622 %


Seems legit
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Re: (Light Sc) Pineapple 3 - (Life L) killsdazombies 0 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39544.msg491560#msg491560
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2012, 09:33:36 pm »
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Killsdazombies
Wins: 692
Winrate: 69.2 %
Average TTW: 10.966763005780347
EMs: 2
EM rate: 0.28901734104046245 %

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Wins: 308
Winrate: 30.8 %
Average TTW: 10.672077922077921
EMs: 82
EM rate: 26.623376623376622 %


Seems legit

Sorry, but I really have a problem with these kind of posts. Blaming luck and such for your losses is very disgraceful - our team lost 5 full games on this one and you will never see one complaint about luck and I can guarantee you you will never see one.

Also, I call bs on the stats.

I got:

Pine
Wins: 651
Winrate: 65.1 %
Average TTW: 8.626728110599078
EMs: 22
EM rate: 3.3794162826420893 %

kdz
Wins: 349
Winrate: 34.9 %
Average TTW: 8.59025787965616
EMs: 0
EM rate: 0 %

I am not calling you a liar or saying you made those up. However, as you can see:

  • 100 games is a lot, but not really. The ttw's are over 2 turns lower here and the win rates are inversed.
  • The AI is bad. It will Bless over using Endow, it will fly weapons costing important quanta and it will bless rather than play another crusader the following turn. Also, it will probably play Dim Shields over PU's, even against a field full of momentum'd creatures.
  • ...do you really think a Dim Shield deck should be favored against a Momentum-based deck?
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Re: (Light Sc) Pineapple 3 - (Life L) killsdazombies 0 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39544.msg491562#msg491562
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2012, 09:35:37 pm »
I never said it was luck based, I ran the stats after Pineapple mentioned it, and i found it funny. I'm sorry if you took offense to it, as it was not intended that way, as i was just poking fun at myself, and Pineapple.
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Re: (Light Sc) Pineapple 3 - (Life L) killsdazombies 0 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39544.msg491567#msg491567
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2012, 09:40:07 pm »
PU dragons is still a quick deck. seems like it was a pretty even matchup
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Re: (Light Sc) Pineapple 3 - (Life L) killsdazombies 0 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39544.msg491577#msg491577
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2012, 09:59:36 pm »
What I find is the most hilarious part about the stats is that the deck with lower TTW had higher win-rate, even when the decks themselves have no CC to slow the other deck down :P

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Re: (Light Sc) Pineapple 3 - (Life L) killsdazombies 0 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39544.msg491578#msg491578
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2012, 10:00:37 pm »
Simulator? Really? Maybe if it was mono fire, but with these decks? :P
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Re: (Light Sc) Pineapple 3 - (Life L) killsdazombies 0 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39544.msg491613#msg491613
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2012, 10:45:29 pm »
Sim will obviously fail with both these decks. Probably a closer matchup than the 3-0 would imply, but yeah a dim shield deck<momentus crusader in general.
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Re: (Light Sc) Pineapple 3 - (Life L) killsdazombies 0 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39544.msg491616#msg491616
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2012, 10:48:38 pm »
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Re: (Light Sc) Pineapple 3 - (Life L) killsdazombies 0 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39544.msg491633#msg491633
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2012, 11:01:41 pm »
Heh so much Momentum.  Still having Nightmares of Gravity Shields, xdude? :P
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2012, 02:35:42 pm »
Great job Pine! We really needed this win. ^.^
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