Post by: ARTHANASIOS on October 19, 2014, 08:34:40 pm
G1 (won): I thought Team :light had brought RoL/Hope versus which I was a goner except if I drew my Thorns. Fortunately, they brought PUgons, a much easier matchup for this deck. Won my antimattering every Dragon on the field and BEing every shield so my Scorps could strike deep. gg
G2 (lost): 1 pend start and a good start for Acsabi. I was utterly outrushed due to a sudden PUgon burst. gg
G3 (won): Very good start for me with 3 upped pends. Early rush established and antimattered adrenascorpions could bypass any Dims they encountered. gg
G4 (won): Pretty much like game 3, though I also drew my BE in the midgame. gg
Pretty good games overall, Acsabi44! Sorry for not being 3-2 or 2-3, a result more fair regarding the potential of both decks. Good luck with the rest of your games! :D
Post by: Acsabi44 on October 19, 2014, 08:40:48 pm
Props to whoever made your deck. Also props to you for playing it perfectly.
Last game I think I accidentally misplayed, I could have fractalled my dragons 1-2 turns earlier for a closer game. But it wouldnt have mattered anyways, this matchup is about 80-20 in favor of Life's deck.
GGs.
Post by: Scaramanga on October 19, 2014, 08:45:16 pm
Life is on a roll!
:life :life :life :life :life :life :life :life :life :life :life :life :life
Post by: andretimpa on October 19, 2014, 08:52:37 pm
Post by: Espithel on October 19, 2014, 10:16:07 pm
Pleasantly surprised by :life so far.Very pleasant indeed.
Good games all.
Post by: Submachine on October 19, 2014, 11:05:46 pm
I can only repeat Scaramanga, Life is on a roll!
Post by: Odii Odsen on October 19, 2014, 11:15:06 pm
Post by: Chapuz on October 20, 2014, 10:56:12 am
Neat deck, :life !
Post by: DeathKnyte on October 21, 2014, 12:39:12 am
I really like it.
After the war, I would be quite appreciative, if you could PM me the person who conceptualized / developed it.
Post by: Vangelios on October 21, 2014, 01:16:25 am
Post by: dawn to dusk on October 21, 2014, 04:36:22 am
Post by: ARTHANASIOS on October 21, 2014, 08:24:28 am
This deck is not new to me, I remember that Nensuru used against me once, and that was how I discovered that anttimatter makes scorpions inflict poison, and overtake walls, that is very cool.
Indeed, the fact a venomous creature with a negative attack bypasses shields is common knowledge. However, there is a single type of a shield the antimattered adrenascorpions CAN'T bypass. Do you know which one? 8)
Post by: Submachine on October 21, 2014, 08:51:01 am
There are 2 shields that an antimattered creature cannot bypass generally: Wings and Gravity Shield. But since scorpions are naturally immune to gravshield, they are only stopped by Wings. ;)This deck is not new to me, I remember that Nensuru used against me once, and that was how I discovered that anttimatter makes scorpions inflict poison, and overtake walls, that is very cool.
Indeed, the fact a venomous creature with a negative attack bypasses shields is common knowledge. However, there is a single type of a shield the antimattered adrenascorpions CAN'T bypass. Do you know which one? 8)
Post by: ARTHANASIOS on October 21, 2014, 09:46:31 am
There are 2 shields that an antimattered creature cannot bypass generally: Wings and Gravity Shield. But since scorpions are naturally immune to gravshield, they are only stopped by Wings. ;)Perfect answer from a perferct :air soldier!
Post by: Vangelios on October 21, 2014, 11:01:44 am
Post by: treebeard xiii on October 21, 2014, 11:38:55 am
This deck is not new to me, I remember that Nensuru used against me once, and that was how I discovered that anttimatter makes scorpions inflict poison, and overtake walls, that is very cool.
Indeed, the fact a venomous creature with a negative attack bypasses shields is common knowledge. However, there is a single type of a shield the antimattered adrenascorpions CAN'T bypass. Do you know which one? 8)
Wings if memory serves that is the only shield that block antimattered creatures
Post by: CuCN on October 21, 2014, 11:45:57 am
There are 2 shields that an antimattered creature cannot bypass generally: Wings and Gravity Shield. But since scorpions are naturally immune to gravshield, they are only stopped by Wings. ;)
Post by: Avenger on October 21, 2014, 11:54:37 am
This deck is not new to me, I remember that Nensuru used against me once, and that was how I discovered that anttimatter makes scorpions inflict poison, and overtake walls, that is very cool.
Indeed, the fact a venomous creature with a negative attack bypasses shields is common knowledge. However, there is a single type of a shield the antimattered adrenascorpions CAN'T bypass. Do you know which one? 8)
Wings if memory serves that is the only shield that block antimattered creatures
No.
Post by: willng3 on October 21, 2014, 12:54:18 pm
Post by: Espithel on October 21, 2014, 01:03:28 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/yLpM99x.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/EYyYJ8z.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/EYyYJ8z.png)
Wings and Gravity shield do block (Heavy armourrrr)
Good games, again.
Post by: Avenger on October 21, 2014, 02:08:42 pm
Post by: Zawadx on October 21, 2014, 02:14:50 pm
Post by: treebeard xiii on October 21, 2014, 02:24:31 pm
I just tested that. Dims does not block animatter.(http://i.imgur.com/yLpM99x.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/EYyYJ8z.png)
Wings and Gravity shield do block (Heavy armourrrr)
Good games, again.
I already knew dims didn't block antimatter is actually very useful I have used it to keep puple ymph alive against buckler and thorn. It also throws off the ais targetting.
Post by: willng3 on October 21, 2014, 04:55:04 pm
I just tested that. Dims does not block animatter.That's...interesting. I tested it against AI3 and their Armagio didn't pass through MY Dims.(http://i.imgur.com/yLpM99x.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/EYyYJ8z.png)
Wings and Gravity shield do block (Heavy armourrrr)
Good games, again.
I also encountered this while testing rogerluc's deck versus Light which is why I even bothered checking again just to confirm I was right so...situational blocking depending on whose side gets Antimatter'd perhaps?
Doesn't that also lead to a possibility of desyncs like the old Purify + Reflective inconsistencies? :\
Post by: Submachine on October 21, 2014, 05:01:40 pm
If anything with a negative attack power is blocked by dims, it's a bug. (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/Themes/default/images/bug2.gif) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/Themes/default/images/bug2.gif) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/Themes/default/images/bug2.gif) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/report-in-game-bugs/ (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/Themes/default/images/bug2.gif) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/Themes/default/images/bug2.gif)I just tested that. Dims does not block animatter.That's...interesting. I tested it against AI3 and their Armagio didn't pass through MY Dims.(http://i.imgur.com/yLpM99x.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/EYyYJ8z.png)
Wings and Gravity shield do block (Heavy armourrrr)
Good games, again.
I also encountered this while testing rogerluc's deck versus Light which is why I even bothered checking again just to confirm I was right so...situational blocking depending on whose side gets Antimatter'd perhaps?
Doesn't that also lead to a possibility of desyncs like the old Purify + Reflective inconsistencies? :\
Post by: willng3 on October 21, 2014, 05:08:20 pm
Yes, that was already a given. That doesn't change the fact that it happens depending on whose perspective you're viewing the battle from.If anything with a negative attack power is blocked by dims, it's a bug. (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/Themes/default/images/bug2.gif) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/Themes/default/images/bug2.gif) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/Themes/default/images/bug2.gif) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/report-in-game-bugs/ (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/Themes/default/images/bug2.gif) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/Themes/default/images/bug2.gif)I just tested that. Dims does not block animatter.That's...interesting. I tested it against AI3 and their Armagio didn't pass through MY Dims.(http://i.imgur.com/yLpM99x.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/EYyYJ8z.png)
Wings and Gravity shield do block (Heavy armourrrr)
Good games, again.
I also encountered this while testing rogerluc's deck versus Light which is why I even bothered checking again just to confirm I was right so...situational blocking depending on whose side gets Antimatter'd perhaps?
Doesn't that also lead to a possibility of desyncs like the old Purify + Reflective inconsistencies? :\
Post by: ARTHANASIOS on October 21, 2014, 06:47:10 pm
Post by: willng3 on October 21, 2014, 06:51:14 pm
It seems that EtG has different rules for players and different ones for AIs. Maybe that's why an antimattered AI creature is blocked by dims while a player's antimattered creature is not blocked. I don't think it has to do with the player of the card but it is an "AI bug" or something, but it has yet to be playtested and confirmed.I actually play tested versus my alt account and produced the same results. When using it on Scorpions the poison counter differs from one person to the next while Dim Shield is in effect because it gets blocked on one side but not the other. I desync'd shortly after this occurred, but I can't tell if this is just because I was playing versus myself on the same computer or if the HP differences ultimately ended up causing a desync.
Post by: Espithel on October 21, 2014, 06:53:45 pm
My assumption is the second player is weirded, and that the AI is always player 2.
How does the game assign player two?
Are enemy scorpions blocked by player dims?
(http://i.imgur.com/EmcWCiI.png)
Yes.
(http://i.imgur.com/pvNLS18.png)
Okay then. What if the AI antimatters the scorpions?
Some are blessed to coax antimatter, fractal to coax dim shield.
Will it work?
(http://i.imgur.com/9jHe1bO.png)
No.
(http://i.imgur.com/13IumpH.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/EmcWCiI.png)
Yes.
(http://i.imgur.com/pvNLS18.png)
Okay then. What if the AI antimatters the scorpions?
Some are blessed to coax antimatter, fractal to coax dim shield.
Will it work?
(http://i.imgur.com/9jHe1bO.png)
No.
(http://i.imgur.com/13IumpH.png)
Well, we all learnt something today, folks!
And that something is I have no life.
Post by: Higurashi on October 21, 2014, 09:10:02 pm
Post by: willng3 on October 21, 2014, 09:31:47 pm
This is already a confirmed bug, y'all.Yeah I thought it seemed familiar as soon as people starting going "Wut it doesn't block Antimatter" x)
But yeah, I just wanted to get this out and in the open to potentially avoid another weird situation like the great Voodoo Doll conversion of War 2. Eh.
Post by: Vangelios on October 22, 2014, 02:29:41 am