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Would you rather stay unmarried? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47142.msg1045240#msg1045240
« on: February 23, 2013, 06:30:04 pm »
commitment is a serious matter. Some got married and divorce soon after. So, what's the point of getting married if commitment isn't there? if love is just superficial and can't even withstand storms?

In regards to your religion and beliefs. Discuss.
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Re: Would you rather stay unmarried? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47142.msg1046291#msg1046291
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2013, 03:52:22 pm »
i can say i don't want to stay unmarried. the thing is, it's up to ourselves whenever we choose to keep the commitments or not, but people don't think that far, sometimes.

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Re: Would you rather stay unmarried? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47142.msg1046296#msg1046296
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2013, 04:00:09 pm »
My thought was always, live together for a prolonged period of time AND THEN get married. If you rush into it, your feelings could be lust instead of love, and that obviously is not the way to go.
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Re: Would you rather stay unmarried? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47142.msg1046324#msg1046324
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2013, 05:45:30 pm »
As far as my religion, I am an atheist and an ex-pagan, but that's only slightly tangentially related to my personal beliefs regarding marriage.

I currently belong to a subculture now (BDSM) and have previously belonged to a different subculture (neo-paganism) in which 'common marriages' are accepted and generally understood to be good. That is to say, that two people can marry without needing a court to validate them for it. Their commitment marries them. I don't believe that there is such a thing as an 'illegitimate' family -- two people without a marriage certificate should be able to build a family and be considered as such, and raise a family if they so choose, et cetera.

However practically, I also know that there are things I will want with my current partner that only a legal marriage can provide for (insurance and other legal rights that an unmarried couple don't have access to). I might have philosophical objections to marriage in general, but the fact of the matter is that there can be times where it is difficult to spend your life with someone you love otherwise. Domestic partnerships don't cut it either.

But anyway, I suppose down the road I see myself marrying twice, to the same person -- marrying ourselves as our relationship is defined (I do plan on collaring my submissive someday, hopefully, I think she's the right person!) and marrying ourselves legally, in order to be recognized by the state/country we live in. I just wish the second wasn't necessary.

Edit: Reread the topic and realized I sort of went off on a tangent, lol. Of course I think a marriage requires commitment. But I think it only requires the kind of commitment that you should be willing to put into any romantic relationship to begin with. I'm not a casual person. So if we're in it together, we're in it for the long haul.

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Re: Would you rather stay unmarried? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47142.msg1046372#msg1046372
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2013, 08:11:35 pm »
I, personally, want to get married with all I've got. I know there is a lot more divorce nowadays, but I always intend to work through any problems we may have rather than divorce. I also intend to take my time with my fiancee to make sure we'll be happy together. The only downside is if and when I get legally recognized as female we might not be able to get married where i live.
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Re: Would you rather stay unmarried? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47142.msg1047316#msg1047316
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2013, 11:01:51 am »
Based on a Christian point of view, Paul states in 1 Corinthians 7:1 that it is best for a man to not have sexual relations with a woman. This is because he believes that men will divert their attention on God and focus more on the spouse instead.
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Re: Would you rather stay unmarried? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47142.msg1047321#msg1047321
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2013, 11:12:56 am »
Regarding marriage, I've always wanted to just throw away the concepts related to it that people are generally brought up knowing. Meaning, no big party, no paperwork, NO GOVERNMENT, no rings, etc. I want it to be a simple matter, without all these complications.

So here's the plan:
1. Find person to like or be miraculously approached by someone
2. Mingle with said person
3. ???
4. Profit = living together happily.

The main problem is step 1. I don't see that happening anytime soon :p
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Re: Would you rather stay unmarried? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47142.msg1047325#msg1047325
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2013, 11:35:51 am »
Regarding marriage, I've always wanted to just throw away the concepts related to it that people are generally brought up knowing. Meaning, no big party, no paperwork, NO GOVERNMENT, no rings, etc. I want it to be a simple matter, without all these complications.

right. simpler's better. feels like it's so troubling for something simple.

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Re: Would you rather stay unmarried? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47142.msg1047327#msg1047327
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2013, 11:56:10 am »
Regarding marriage, I've always wanted to just throw away the concepts related to it that people are generally brought up knowing. Meaning, no big party, no paperwork, NO GOVERNMENT, no rings, etc. I want it to be a simple matter, without all these complications.

So here's the plan:
1. Find person to like or be miraculously approached by someone
2. Mingle with said person
3. ???
4. Profit = living together happily.

The main problem is step 1. I don't see that happening anytime soon :p

Seconded, though rings are awesome.

Also relevant: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MyOwnPrivateIDo
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Re: Would you rather stay unmarried? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47142.msg1052340#msg1052340
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2013, 08:37:03 pm »
My thought was always, live together for a prolonged period of time AND THEN get married. If you rush into it, your feelings could be lust instead of love, and that obviously is not the way to go.

One should DEFINITELY make sure it's love before hopping into such a huge commitment. My take: don't get married if you can't handle the commitment and you aren't in love.
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