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Re: Why not Islam? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19330.msg250887#msg250887
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2011, 07:19:08 am »
So God, something that is limitless in power and presence is limited in state?
Something that has power over everything in the universe cannot be non-existant?
I'm not sure if you're getting at this or not, but I never really bought the whole "Well, God is defined to be perfect, so logically he must exist" argument. The way I see it, everything in that exists in the universe is flawed. So if God were to exist, he would be flawed too. Therefore, the only way for God to be perfect is to not exist.

It's not a particularly amazing argument, but it's at least as well founded as its counterpart.


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In this "By defining a thing as orange, it is necessarily not-blue. By describing something as square, it is necessarily not-circular." a Can is both Square and circular, look at it from a horizontal plane, its base and edge form a right angle and if its base and width and height are the same it is square. Look at it from above and its circular. Being square did not prevent it from being circular. The Sky above my home is blue when I look straight up but orange when I look to the horizon, being blue does not prevent it from being orange. Definitions only provide positive evaluations.
Your shape analogy fails because neither square nor circular are accurate representations of your object, as they are both things that technically describe 2D shapes, and your shape is 3D.

As for your sky analogy, it really says it all itself. In order to get both blue and orange, you have to look at 2 different spots. One spot in the sky is not simultaneously blue and orange.

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You need to be more open minded to even start to understand basic comprehension of infinites.

Lets use a classical conundrum of omnipotence.
"Can the omnipotent being microwave a potato so hot that even he can't eat it?"
The Answer is Yes.
"Can he then eat it"
The answer is also Yes.
I'm not quite sure why the proof that omnipotence is logically impossible is here to be honest.

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Re: Why not Islam? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19330.msg250987#msg250987
« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2011, 12:28:17 pm »
..snip...
*blasts control panel* "Boring conversation anyway"

 

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