Why Atheism?

[xdude]

So, Pupp says that his God wants no worshiping, but Wardead thinks he DOES. These are 2 different gods. IMO, every non-atheist human being has hi/her own God. Also, perfection is relative.

[Artois]

Interesting...

Belief = knowledge ... nope.

'Just because a man is prepared to die for his beliefs, does not make them true'.

The burden of proof has most elegantly been summed up by Bertrand Russells Flying Teapot.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot)

As for the initial debate... Atheism, why?

Personally, I find it very hard to believe that the world was created and is over seen by a supernatural celestial being, who spawned a son through a virgin wife (virgin?  If I were Joseph and my 'virgin' wife fell pregnant... I doubt I'd believe God did it!).  This son, could walk on water, feed 5000, heal the sick, and ressurect himself.  Crikey, he makes david Copperfield look amateur!

Then theres the benign and gentle nature of God, who plagued his enemies, wiped out the Caananites, asked his believer to kill his son? 

Further, I am led to believe that Satan is responsible for about 10 deaths in the bible, whilst God the Good is responsible for the deaths of approxiamately 2,000,000... world-wide floods, plagues, and tumbling walls of Jehricho... ho ho ho... nasty fella that god bloke.

Meanwhile, in the words of Douglas Adams "I really do not believe that there is a god - in fact I am convinced that there is not a god."

[Wardead]

Why do people represent God in Christianity form?

In Islam, God does not have a father or mother, not a daughter or son. No wives too. There is no beginning nor end for him. Jesus (Isa) was a Prophet, like Adam, Abraham (Ibrahim), Moses (Musa), Noah (Nuh), and Muhammad (PBUT). There are many more but all were human. They were Messengers and not "sons" of God. All the Prophets were gifted with miracles, like Jesus. He still is not dead yet, and the theory that he was crucified is false. God, in Islam, is kind and merciful to those who believe the right path. We should fear as well as love him. Why in the world would he wipe out the Canaanites if they were the descendants of Ibrahim (PBUH)? They still exist as Palestinians. He gave punishment to those who tortured his Prophets. If God were to plague his enemies, Atheists should not exist by now. Satan has indirectly killed people for he has led people astray. God killed the disbelievers and makes the one whose time has come for Judgement die.

[Demagog]

Interesting...

Belief = knowledge ... nope.

You obviously aren't familiar with philosophy. Belief is a type of knowledge. There is no agreement on what knowledge is.

[Wardead]

Almost all religions have a vital knowledgable fact in it. How else would people believe in that religion?

[airframe]

Wardead, since you're stating these as things as facts you tell why you're doing so and you have said a lot of things that appear to be based on nothing. Qu'ran is is not a valid source.

Most of us are talking about christianity because it is the religion that were most familiar with. Interesting, you say that Jesus existed but was not crucified. From what I know it is one of the most important beliefs in christianity. Still, even if it directly contradicts what you believe you would rather choose christianity than atheism.

[Wardead]

Jesus was not crucified and still lives above the heavens. If Qur'an is not a valid source of Islam, I don't know what is. I rather would choose Christianity because they at least believe there IS A GOD. Atheists don't do that.

[Artois]

Interesting...

Belief = knowledge ... nope.

You obviously aren't familiar with philosophy. Belief is a type of knowledge. There is no agreement on what knowledge is.

Epistemology is the philosophical study of knowledge and belief.

"The relationship between belief and knowledge is that a belief is knowledge if the belief is true, and if the believer has a justification (reasonable and necessarily plausible assertions/evidence/guidance) for believing it is true."

I eagerly await the production of proof

[Demagog]

Interesting...

Belief = knowledge ... nope.

You obviously aren't familiar with philosophy. Belief is a type of knowledge. There is no agreement on what knowledge is.

Epistemology is the philosophical study of knowledge and belief.

"The relationship between belief and knowledge is that a belief is knowledge if the belief is true, and if the believer has a justification (reasonable and necessarily plausible assertions/evidence/guidance) for believing it is true."

I eagerly await the production of proof

Thanks for telling me what I already know. Except that's only one type of knowledge. Belief is also all that is required for knowledge by some people's definitions.

And I have no idea what proof you are talking about. You never asked me for any.

[Artois]

In Lewis Carroll's Through the Looking-Glass, the White Queen says,

"Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."

[Artois]

Oops, i should know better, this debate never gets resolved...

However, I wonder if you would do me the curtesy of answering: Why believe in God?

[airframe]

Jesus was not crucified and still lives above the heavens. If Qur'an is not a valid source of Islam, I don't know what is. I rather would choose Christianity because they at least believe there IS A GOD. Atheists don't do that.

Honestly, you reached such a level of not making sense that I'm having trouble not laughing.

Holy books generally cannot be counted as a valid source, unless things that are written in them can be proven to be true. If qur'an is counted as a valid source then we have to count bible also. And they based on what you said they tell a different story, so which is right? I haven't read qur'an but you're not making it sound anymore convincing than the bible.

I do not believe there is a god because there is no reason to believe so. If there is a reason to do so, then please someone, tell me what it is.