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Re: Westboro Baptist Church https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22030.msg282613#msg282613
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2011, 10:54:59 pm »
I'm not really sure what teachings about the sincerity of piety have to do with a quote talking about the PR perils of evangelism and prophecy.

And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation.
-Mark 16:15

I don't think anyone really doubts that they're Christians. They say so themselves, and they preach salvation through Christ, and by definition that's all you need.

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Re: Westboro Baptist Church https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22030.msg282631#msg282631
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2011, 11:33:01 pm »
I'm not really sure what teachings about the sincerity of piety have to do with a quote talking about the PR perils of evangelism and prophecy.

And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation.
-Mark 16:15

I don't think anyone really doubts that they're Christians. They say so themselves, and they preach salvation through Christ, and by definition that's all you need.
Jesus condemns action for publicity's sake several times. I merely pointed out the first one I remembered. And simply yelling at people that they are going to hell because they are terrible isn't "preaching the gospel," per se.

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Re: Westboro Baptist Church https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22030.msg282667#msg282667
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2011, 12:19:44 am »
My school put on the Laramie Project, and WBC picketed us.
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Re: Westboro Baptist Church https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22030.msg282673#msg282673
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2011, 12:23:18 am »
My school put on the Laramie Project, and WBC picketed us.
dang.
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Re: Westboro Baptist Church https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22030.msg282674#msg282674
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2011, 12:24:05 am »
This is back when I was in highschool
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Re: Westboro Baptist Church https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22030.msg282678#msg282678
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2011, 12:26:21 am »
The reason he decries action for publicity's sake is largely because it shows a lack of sincerity - being pious solely for personal gain is the exact opposite of sincere devotion. Contrast this with evangelism and preaching, the entire point of which is to communicate a message publicly - Christians are commanded to go out and preach the word of God. I'm pretty certain the WBC are pretty sincere in their teachings (you'd have to be to endure what they do - no-one is that committed to being an IRL troll), and I'm pretty certain what they're doing are not inappropriate public displays of private devotion, but rather public evangelism, prophecy and preaching. They not only tell people that they're going to hell, they explain why they believe that and back this up with Bible verses. Then they tell them how they can repent and be saved. Sounds like a pretty typical evangelical MO to me (though the political stances are slightly more extreme than is typical).

EDIT: In fact, on the topic of sincerity, I'm willing to bet that the WBC are a damn sight more sincere than most Christians when it comes to actually preaching what the bible says. It doesn't exactly take a conservative view of the bible to end up with the GOD HATES FAGS message, for instance - it's just a liberal reformist movement within major churches coupled with the glacial inevitability of social progress that has started to change the message to one of tolerance. The WBC are just better at sticking to their guns.

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Re: Westboro Baptist Church https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22030.msg282680#msg282680
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2011, 12:28:49 am »
Picketing highschoolers? thats even more dissapointing
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Re: Westboro Baptist Church https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22030.msg282681#msg282681
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2011, 12:29:46 am »
There was a large counter-protest.   We had a biker gang come down from New York even.
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Re: Westboro Baptist Church https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22030.msg282698#msg282698
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2011, 12:58:05 am »
@WBC, come on over to VA. I'll be sure to punch every one of your faces in when you arrive.
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Re: Westboro Baptist Church https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22030.msg282701#msg282701
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2011, 01:00:12 am »
I believe that every religion that has a hell is sending me there.


As Mark Twain once said "Go to Heaven for the scenery, but Hell for the company"
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Re: Westboro Baptist Church https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22030.msg282710#msg282710
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2011, 01:04:37 am »
@WBC, come on over to VA. I'll be sure to punch every one of your faces in when you arrive.
And no, you don't get any Hanukkah presents.
Problem with that timer is they are all lawyers and sue anyone who does to them what they deserve. It's where most of their funding comes from.

And yeah I've heard about the biker groups who come to protect the groups and blockout the WBC. They are truly great members

I also love how the entire group claims to be true christians and just happen to forget the 300+ bible verses about helping the poor and chose to focus on the single digit ones that view homosexuality negative

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Re: Westboro Baptist Church https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22030.msg282716#msg282716
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2011, 01:15:55 am »
i added a link to the op in case you still have the taste of stupid in your mouth
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