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The only thing more irritating... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40508.msg501680#msg501680
« on: May 21, 2012, 03:46:47 am »
...than an avid theist that tries to force his or her belief onto you is an avid atheist that tries to force his or her lack of belief onto you.

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Re: The only thing more irritating... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40508.msg501691#msg501691
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2012, 03:57:22 am »
Born and raised a Christian, although I must honestly say that I did not choose to be one nor do I completely understand and accept the interpretations of others, I see nothing wrong with sharing one's faith, but yes, it is horrible when people are shoving religion down the throats of others.  It should be noted it's not limited to that, but when people are forcing their beliefs that another religion is "wrong."

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Re: The only thing more irritating... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40508.msg505561#msg505561
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2012, 09:46:27 pm »
For my sake, atheist or not, anyone should force someone to believe like (s)he does, everybody should choose his/her religion by him(her)self without influences from other people
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Re: The only thing more irritating... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40508.msg505620#msg505620
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2012, 12:59:45 am »
The only thing more irritating than an avid theist that tries to force his or her belief onto you is an avid atheist that tries to force his or her lack of belief onto you.

No.
Though both are annoying, the extreme of theist religious intolerance does exceed the extreme of antitheist religious intolerance. There have not yet been any antitheists avid enough to threaten theists with "convert or die".

That said, the existence of a greater evil is no defense for the lesser evils.
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Re: The only thing more irritating... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40508.msg505650#msg505650
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2012, 02:40:27 am »
The only thing more irritating than an avid theist that tries to force his or her belief onto you is an avid atheist that tries to force his or her lack of belief onto you.

No.
Though both are annoying, the extreme of theist religious intolerance does exceed the extreme of theist religious intolerance. There have not yet been any antitheists avid enough to threaten theists with "convert or die".

That said, the existence of a greater evil is no defense for the lesser evils.

Er, do you mean the extreme of theist religious intolerance exceeds the extreme of antitheist religious intolerance?

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Re: The only thing more irritating... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40508.msg505654#msg505654
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2012, 02:49:28 am »
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Re: The only thing more irritating... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40508.msg506876#msg506876
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2012, 02:25:23 pm »

Er, do you mean the extreme of theist religious intolerance exceeds the extreme of antitheist religious intolerance?

er... yes, Jihad, crusade, the inquisition, the persecution of the jews, bombing of abortion centers, 9/11, the london bombings, the madrid bombing, the mumbai attacks, the christain/muslim atrocitys in bosnia, indonesia, algeria.

Take your pick.

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Re: The only thing more irritating... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40508.msg506884#msg506884
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2012, 02:56:15 pm »
Meh. There are lots of idiots in this world who don't grasp their belief well enough to execute it, but are often obligated to force their belief on others. As of yet, I don't think that many of the Christian populus are competent, which is a shame...

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Re: The only thing more irritating... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40508.msg507405#msg507405
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2012, 11:58:29 pm »
Hang on, 'grasp their belief well enough to execute it' like the crusaders that were promised instant access to heaven, or the terrorists doing it because they're promised 32 virgins?  I think people are very aware of what they are doing and why they are doing it.

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Re: The only thing more irritating... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40508.msg507410#msg507410
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2012, 12:01:12 am »

Er, do you mean the extreme of theist religious intolerance exceeds the extreme of antitheist religious intolerance?

er... yes, Jihad, crusade, the inquisition, the persecution of the jews, bombing of abortion centers, 9/11, the london bombings, the madrid bombing, the mumbai attacks, the christain/muslim atrocitys in bosnia, indonesia, algeria.

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Re: The only thing more irritating... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40508.msg507416#msg507416
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Re: The only thing more irritating... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40508.msg507436#msg507436
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2012, 12:45:58 am »
Hang on, 'grasp their belief well enough to execute it' like the crusaders that were promised instant access to heaven, or the terrorists doing it because they're promised 32 virgins?  I think people are very aware of what they are doing and why they are doing it.

Its about the burden of proof, its for you to prove your invisible friend exists not for me to disprove his existance.

1) His comment was about how many theists rely on spiritual leaders rather than religious texts. It was the Pope that told the crusaders they would get instant access to heaven. It is the Bible that speaks of peace. (despite also speaking of war)

2) The assertion "you should change your position" always has the burden of proof.
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