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The greatest atheist in history https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg123503#msg123503
« on: July 25, 2010, 01:05:00 am »
I'm curious to hear who you would nominate as the greatest atheist of all-time.  Of course this is open to atheist and theists alike, and it would be nice to have a brief explanation of your choice.  Also, try not to google "list of atheists" but rather pick someone you already know to be atheist.
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Re: The greatest atheist in history https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg124851#msg124851
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2010, 05:50:54 pm »
thomas jefferson for figureheads...bertrund russell for authors...slayer for musicians
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Re: The greatest atheist in history https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg125663#msg125663
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2010, 04:00:52 pm »
Terry Pratchett!
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Re: The greatest atheist in history https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg125730#msg125730
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Re: The greatest atheist in history https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg125738#msg125738
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2010, 06:31:37 pm »
Siddhartha. (aka Buddha)
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Re: The greatest atheist in history https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg125816#msg125816
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2010, 07:43:10 pm »
Quote from: unit748596 on July 27, 2010, 06:31:37 pm
Siddhartha. (aka Buddha)
founder of budhism is atheist ?
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Re: The greatest atheist in history https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg125817#msg125817
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2010, 07:43:58 pm »
Quote from: Thalas on July 27, 2010, 07:43:10 pm
Quote from: unit748596 on July 27, 2010, 06:31:37 pm
Siddhartha. (aka Buddha)
founder of budhism is atheist ?
(now that i know what agnostic atheist means) yes.
TECHNICALLY all religions are atheist, it just depends on who it is thats looking. a jew is an atheist int he eyes of a christian or a catholic. a christian is an atheist in the eyes of a muslim. do you see the pattern im hinting at?
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Re: The greatest atheist in history https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg125828#msg125828
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2010, 08:09:47 pm »
Not really. Atheist = anti-theist, aka, anti a believer of God/Gods. While a christian may call a muslim a heathen, I doubt he'd call him an atheist as he obviously believes in God.

And Siddharta was atheist, but in the sense that he did not put his faith into specific gods. But the thing with Nirvana is very closely linked to pantheism (/ALL IS GOD) so... I would not call him atheist. Definitely agnostic though, as he questioned everything constantly. 
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Re: The greatest atheist in history https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg125839#msg125839
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2010, 08:20:39 pm »
*sigh* where to begin

buddha did not believe in the crap that most people believe buddhism to be based on. at least that is what i read in many old books.

the nirvana that most people think is not what buddhism is based on. nirvana is solely based on enlightenment, which means understanding the most important things in life. i dont know what they are yet, but that is why i am visiting a temple every once and a while. i only have ideas of what these things are. as for the reincarnation thing, i think the point he was trying to make was that is POSSIBLE, and not an absolute. and considering the fact that its possible, you should work to prevent the bad from happening. buddha was a firm believer of the phrase "better safe than sorry" (even though it probably wasnt those exact words back then) the reason he focused heavily on  the possibility of reincarnation was because it was the most prolonging experience of all. and one should do everything they could to shorten it. he believed that if it were indeed true, good deeds would ultimately shorten people suffering through the reincarnation process. as he said (not exact words) "to live is to suffer"
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Re: The greatest atheist in history https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg125845#msg125845
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2010, 08:28:01 pm »
Do you mean the greatest advocate of atheism, or the greatest person who also happened to be an atheist?
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Re: The greatest atheist in history https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg125848#msg125848
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2010, 08:29:37 pm »
i would assume the greatest person in history to support atheism.
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Re: The greatest atheist in history https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10155.msg125851#msg125851
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2010, 08:30:49 pm »
OK, then I guess this makes no sense to me.  Never really thought of atheism as a cause to be advanced.
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