My final point

[BluePriest]

You can say I shouldn't believe in God. However, the burden of proof is on YOU if you want to convince me of that. Don't misunderstand what I am saying. Please let me be clear before jumping to conclusions saying I don't understand how the burden of proof works (although admittedly, I still have some work to do on it, and who knows, perhaps this point will instead just show how little I understand it). I am not trying to convince YOU that God exists. I am stating that God exists. My evidence is personal experiences with him. I have my evidence that shows ME he is real.

Please understand, I am not saying "You cannot prove that God does not exist, so He does."
Instead I am saying "I have seen proof that God exists (although I am not pressing it on you), therefor if you don't have evidence to the contrary, then I will believe what I believe."

*holds up flame shield* please forgive any ignorance I have shown in this post.


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Basically-
If you tell me there is no God, it is YOUR job to prove it, and if I tell you there IS a god, then it is my job to prove it.

[Xenocidius]

God in what form though? God as a Caucasian man with a beard and robe? Or God as an entity that created the universe?

[BluePriest]

God in what form though? God as a Caucasian man with a beard and robe? Or God as an entity that created the universe?

Christian God. As I stated before, the point of this topic is NOT to try to get you to believe in God. It is saying that if YOU want to make the claim that God doesnt exist, you have to give proof, as I am not trying to assert a claim.

[Jenkar]

God exists and doesn't exist at the same time, cuz he can do everything he want, including being death kitty all the time.

[Neopergoss]

I'm God. Only I have proof, though. Kinda a pointless claim, but I still just thought I should throw it out there.

[Scaredgirl]

You can say I shouldn't believe in God. However, the burden of proof is on YOU if you want to convince me of that. Don't misunderstand what I am saying. Please let me be clear before jumping to conclusions saying I don't understand how the burden of proof works (although admittedly, I still have some work to do on it, and who knows, perhaps this point will instead just show how little I understand it). I am not trying to convince YOU that God exists. I am stating that God exists. My evidence is personal experiences with him. I have my evidence that shows ME he is real.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

If I claim that I can fly and my proof is that I have personally experienced lifting up in the air and flying, is the burden of proof on you? Do you have to prove that I cannot fly instead of me having to prove that I can? And if you cannot prove that I cannot fly, does that mean you cannot question my ability to fly? Of course not because that would be silly.

If you look at all the things Religions claims to be truth without any proof (how modern science understands the term), the claims are clearly extraordinary and equivalent of me claiming I can fly or turn invisible.


Like you yourself kind of said, you don't understand how burden of proof works.

[Jenkar]

And if you cannot prove that I cannot fly, does that mean you cannot question my ability to fly? Of course not because that would be silly.

I don't get why it would be silly. For all i know, you could have found a loophole in physic or whatever that allows you to fly.
Till you can prove something is wrong, it's right, AND that includes opposites.

[az4rel]

people are too obsessed with absolute truth, for me god exists if I want to.
so my god now is a all mighty cow.

[Bloodshadow]

You can say I shouldn't believe in God.

But I won't say that. You believe in whatever you want to believe. I won't force my beliefs on you.

What you don't understand is that the problem arises when you force your beliefs on me, not the other way around. Stop trying to convert us atheists, and we'll be fine.

[Jenkar]

You can say I shouldn't believe in God.

But I won't say that. You believe in whatever you want to believe. I won't force my beliefs on you.

What you don't understand is that the problem arises when you force your beliefs on me, not the other way around. Stop trying to convert us atheists, and we'll be fine.

I am not trying to convince YOU that God exists.

[Selvaria]

You can say I shouldn't believe in God.

But I won't say that. You believe in whatever you want to believe. I won't force my beliefs on you.

What you don't understand is that the problem arises when you force your beliefs on me, not the other way around. Stop trying to convert us atheists, and we'll be fine.

I am not trying to convince YOU that God exists.

If that is so then why make the thread in the first place?


In my opinion, God might exist because:
1. There must be a beginning to everything.
2. While science consistently prove that religions are flawed, e.g. earth as the center of the universe, theory of evolution, etc, it just simply prove that all religions are corrupted by mankind, and doesn't prove that God doesn't exist.

What I know for sure:
Religious institution are total bs. The higher ups are mostly false prophets. Scriptures, like the bible had been to corrupted over time to even take it literally. How can I prove that? Simple, because men are sinful. Think of it this way, there are good individuals, but there are NO good organizations (government, religion, church bodies, etc since they are always get infiltrated by immoral power-hungry abominations).

Most people end up becoming atheist simply because they realize all religions are total crap, however have no way to prove that God doesn't exist.

[Jenkar]

If that is so then why make the thread in the first place?

Because he wanted to.