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Re: Is Islam that bad as what the media says about it? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6270.msg87001#msg87001
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2010, 11:09:51 pm »
can anyone name ONE civilization that didnt conquer land? i cant, at all.
Define conquer. Do you mean:
-Conquered from OTHER humans?
OR
- Conquered from wild animals/etc

For the first part, there are a few examples:

Easter Island - died out due to not conquering when natrual resources went low.
Many of the ancient civilizations in the Mesopotamian area were completely peaceful and engaged only in trade.

Second part is of course impossible.

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Re: Is Islam that bad as what the media says about it? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6270.msg94025#msg94025
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2010, 07:55:01 am »
Let's put it in this perspective: there are more Christian terrorists in the world than Muslim terrorists.  From the IRA to the Klu Klux Klan to various groups in Russia, Romania, Uganda, Canada, India, and the USA, Christians are by and large more willfully ignorant, violence-prone, and hate-filled than Muslims.

You just don't hear about them because it's not a topic the media cares to discuss.


There are between 1.5 and 2 billion Mulsims in the world, and we hear about a few thousand that happen to be very vocal and politically expedient for us to target.   


So no, Islam is not nearly as bad as what the media says about it.  Not in the least.
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Re: Is Islam that bad as what the media says about it? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6270.msg99706#msg99706
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2010, 12:36:54 am »
Is Islam that bad as what the media says about it?

Discuss.
Overall, no.  I am not Muslim, but what I do know is that the media does two things:

1)  They only talk about the "crazy" people.
2)  They focus on the negatives.

I have also come across a recent poll that shows that only approximately 10% of Muslims are in fact Islamist (the concept of killing all infidels).

However, the Islamists think they are doing a priviledge to the human race.  According to their beliefs, if you are not Muslim, you are garbage and unfaithful to Allah.  Whether or not their actions aremorally right is another question...

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Re: Is Islam that bad as what the media says about it? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6270.msg99907#msg99907
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2010, 11:10:12 am »
10% is quite a lot for wanting to kill a large majority of the worlds people.

Re: Is Islam that bad as what the media says about it? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6270.msg99913#msg99913
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2010, 11:30:02 am »
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can anyone name ONE civilization that didnt conquer land? i cant, at all.
Well, there's Switzerland, I think.  They just make fancy watches and people go "ooh shiny" and leave them alone.  But secretly they are planning the downfall of all Europe, and then the WORLD.  We won't be able to fight back, with the glare in our eyes, and we will all wish we'd bought more of their watches.

But seriously, I can't remember reading that Greece ever tried to conquer anything.  They did go to war, but not over territory afaik.  Please, correct me if I'm mistaken.

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Re: Is Islam that bad as what the media says about it? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6270.msg99946#msg99946
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2010, 12:39:57 pm »
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can anyone name ONE civilization that didnt conquer land? i cant, at all.
Well, there's Switzerland, I think.  They just make fancy watches and people go "ooh shiny" and leave them alone.  But secretly they are planning the downfall of all Europe, and then the WORLD.  We won't be able to fight back, with the glare in our eyes, and we will all wish we'd bought more of their watches.

But seriously, I can't remember reading that Greece ever tried to conquer anything.  They did go to war, but not over territory afaik.  Please, correct me if I'm mistaken.
Greece had kindof an empire thing going on... That most people probably heard of (before the Roman empire). In modern days, I guess the Cyprus conflict will suffice for Greek conquering.

In their early history, I believe Switzerland tried to conquer the rest of Europe (but le French people took over them instead). In modern days however... Nope, about as neutral as Sweden ^^

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Re: Is Islam that bad as what the media says about it? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6270.msg112506#msg112506
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2010, 11:35:27 pm »
first the question should read "is islam as bad as the media says it is"
second all religions are wrong and it is always very easy to prove this as the arguments are based on facts on common sense.unfortunately for believers blinded by faith this isnt good enough to sway them (though it would easily be found guilty of wrongdoing  i nany court of law.
third forget the media the koran had a passage which CLEARY states a husband may beat his wife for insubordination..their "messiah" apparently thinks this is an okay behavior..this doesnt make it any better or worse than the bile which condones murder incest and slavery and does so repetitively.But those with faith know something we dont which makes these evikl okay somehow.

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Re: Is Islam that bad as what the media says about it? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6270.msg112514#msg112514
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2010, 12:02:35 am »
religious people are blinded by faith? no, i dont see it that way. i see it as a way for people to have hope what they are doing in this world is just and full of meaning. as for atheists, as you presumabley are, i think they are blinded by "facts" thinking that just because you can see it, it exists, and if you cant see it, it doesnt. and with that "logic", i can presume the BILLIONS of people who live on the opposite side of the world dont exist, and we can use the land they dont exist on as target practice for long range missiles.

what im trying to say is, who knows? simple and to the point.
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Re: Is Islam that bad as what the media says about it? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6270.msg113423#msg113423
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2010, 10:43:05 am »
religious people are blinded by faith? no, i dont see it that way. then I presume you are blinded by faith?  i see it as a way for people to have hope what they are doing in this world is just and full of meaning. as for atheists, who also believe that what they do is just and full of meaning  as you presumabley are, i think they are blinded by "facts" thinking that just because you can see it, it exists, and if you cant see it, it doesnt. and with that "logic", i can presume the BILLIONS of people who live on the opposite side of the world dont exist, not quite, as there is more than enough evidence to support a belief that those Australians exist!   and we can use the land they dont exist on as target practice for long range missiles no, Armeggedon and destruction is God's business not the work of peacful atheists.

what im trying to say is, who knows?  If you don't know what you are saying, how can we possibly know?  simple and to the point.  oh.

 

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