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First Contact and Religion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25510.msg325140#msg325140
« on: May 02, 2011, 06:47:52 pm »
This is a simple question with diffcult answer -

What if humankind made contact with aliens which are technologicaly +10 years in advance. Note that beings doesn't look like humans, they have different matters and language.
and there 2 scenarios
1. 90% of aliens are atheists
2. 90% of aliens are theists


How would be religion affected? Could aliens become christians muslims hinduists etc.. ? Would religion collapse ? Would be declared new crusade against aliens?

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Re: First Contact and Religion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25510.msg325160#msg325160
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2011, 07:24:20 pm »
Religion (at least many of them) wouldn't collapse. There would certainly be changes though. I'm sure a fair number would eventually try to convert the new arrivals. Of course, the response depends a lot on the nature of our first contact too.

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Re: First Contact and Religion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25510.msg325355#msg325355
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2011, 11:22:41 pm »
Religion (at least many of them) wouldn't collapse. There would certainly be changes though. I'm sure a fair number would eventually try to convert the new arrivals. Of course, the response depends a lot on the nature of our first contact too.
Humans = slaves. We'd probably adopt their religious perspective.

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Re: First Contact and Religion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25510.msg325361#msg325361
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2011, 11:26:54 pm »
Religion (at least many of them) wouldn't collapse. There would certainly be changes though. I'm sure a fair number would eventually try to convert the new arrivals. Of course, the response depends a lot on the nature of our first contact too.
Humans = slaves. We'd probably adopt their religious perspective.
Or we would preempt being forced into slavery and take over the first ships to arrive, ultimately making them our slaves! (It would be like looking In A Mirror, Darkly...)

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Re: First Contact and Religion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25510.msg329044#msg329044
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2011, 07:34:39 pm »
I can't resist ponderings like this, they are too much fun.

At first reaction all I could think was "wow is that a loaded question or what?".  It actually led me to more questions than anything. 

Are they able to break the language barrier for us, or would time have to be spent learning to understand each other first?  In both scenarios that would certainly have a major impact on how both sides (alien/us) would view and treat religion.

Which nation made first contact? What religions do the humans who made first contact follow? How orthodox are they?  There are so many religions, and so many different global attitudes towards religion.  I don't even know where to start when I think about this dynamic.

As far as our own religions go, I would think that most would take a standpoint along similar lines to "If they exist, then God meant for them to exist." (I am neither religious nor atheist myself, this is just an observation.)

I could go on, but assuming the aliens actually work together (unlike our planet lol)... TL;DR = I vote that we'd make great pets.  :))

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Re: First Contact and Religion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25510.msg329298#msg329298
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2011, 03:38:10 am »
Hard to stop myself from making a joke with my username on this topic, but i won't do it.

Personally? I guess after years of attempted communication, we would finally devise a translator to our languages, and after a quick period, there would be war. Either that, or there would be war right from the start. I mean, the whole world's population is prepared with movies, cartoons, and so on, to believe anything non-human is hostile and will attempt to make us their slaves.

So yes, religion will be affected, considering it might be the only thing that would stop a war from happening, or at least save some of the human race.
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Re: First Contact and Religion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25510.msg334387#msg334387
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2011, 10:24:05 pm »
If they have a habitable planet, we would try to massacre them and colonize their planet, providing a solution for the overpopulation of Earth and possibly the depletion of Natural resources.

As for religion we wouldn't know a lot about them if we attacked them fast. But considering your scenarios:
90% theist, Holy war against the infidels. Same process that has happened troughout our history. If they are theist there is also a big chance they will try to force their religion upon us.

90%atheist. If they are gullible all the diffrent religions might try to convert them. If they are atheist like the sort of people who think they are more intelligent then theists. It will most likely end in a war.

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Re: First Contact and Religion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25510.msg335365#msg335365
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2011, 11:10:03 am »
90%atheist. If they are gullible all the diffrent religions might try to convert them. If they are atheist like the sort of people who think they are more intelligent then theists. It will most likely end in a war.
unfortunately, if they are smart enough to find us, and smart enough to reject religion, I fear God won't save us from this war... we will be converted, into mincemeat, puppychow

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Re: First Contact and Religion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25510.msg335497#msg335497
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2011, 04:10:18 pm »
This is a simple question with diffcult answer -

What if humankind made contact with aliens which are technologicaly +10 years in advance. Note that beings doesn't look like humans, they have different matters and language.
and there 2 scenarios
1. 90% of aliens are atheists
2. 90% of aliens are theists


How would be religion affected? Could aliens become christians muslims hinduists etc.. ?
There would be different positions within each religion. Some would be xenophobic, and others would be eager to have a new species to proselytize.

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Would religion collapse ?
No.

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Would be declared new crusade against aliens?
As I said above, some sects in each religion would be xenophobic, and others would be more welcoming.

I suspect that aliens would be more secular than humans are at this point in time. As a set of answers to existential questions (Who am I? Where do I come from? Where am I going?), religion is inferior to science. I think that it's likely that other sentient species would have more or less the same journey from (1) being too stupid to pose existential questions to (2) being able to pose the questions yet answering them in religious/magical terms to (3) answering the questions in scientific ways.

 

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