Evolution and Intelligent Design

[Artois]

If we are the result of intelligent design, then why have we got a stupid appendix that we don't need?  That's not intelligent... in fact it looks rather like a random flaw that is more likely the result of evolution.

Considering I normally find your arguments appealing, I was really disappointed with this one. \
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21153898/
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=what-is-the-function-of-t


Both links talking about the use of the appendix.

Well you learn something new everyday! 

[KyuubisSlave]

one word..... aliens O.O (actually a possibility xD)



I will say that the evolution theory is much more likely in my opinion, for several reasons.
The main reason being fossil record, if we go back about 200,000 years ago there are no homo sapiens; however, there are other human like animals.

now my understanding of creationism is that we were all just created and put on the earth as is "poof" and modern man, civilization, and all modern animals here in an instant....

I am not going to rule out the possibility of a higher being starting evolution tho. I definitely believe that is possible because no one knows how it all started (and we probably never will)

[Artois]

one word..... aliens O.O (actually a possibility xD)


I will say that the evolution theory is much more likely in my opinion, for several reasons.
The main reason being fossil record, if we go back about 200,000 years ago there are no homo sapiens; however, there are other human like animals.

now my understanding of creationism is that we were all just created and put on the earth as is "poof" and modern man, civilization, and all modern animals here in an instant....

I am not going to rule out the possibility of a higher being starting evolution tho. I definitely believe that is possible because no one knows how it all started (and we probably never will)

I wonder why Noah didn't save the dinosaurs...

I understand that mans ancestors can be traced back to Adam & Eve and thus the begining of the 'poof' as you say to around 6,000-10,000, so we can ignore the dinosaur fossils as God's little prank as they cannot exist before the garden of eden.  Sorry.

[KyuubisSlave]

one word..... aliens O.O (actually a possibility xD)


I will say that the evolution theory is much more likely in my opinion, for several reasons.
The main reason being fossil record, if we go back about 200,000 years ago there are no homo sapiens; however, there are other human like animals.

now my understanding of creationism is that we were all just created and put on the earth as is "poof" and modern man, civilization, and all modern animals here in an instant....

I am not going to rule out the possibility of a higher being starting evolution tho. I definitely believe that is possible because no one knows how it all started (and we probably never will)

I wonder why Noah didn't save the dinosaurs...

I understand that mans ancestors can be traced back to Adam & Eve and thus the begining of the 'poof' as you say to around 6,000-10,000, so we can ignore the dinosaur fossils as God's little prank as they cannot exist before the garden of eden.  Sorry.

but what about Neanderthals and all of the other humanoid animals before us. And why the heck would god create Dinosaur fossils as a prank, that is kind of stupid -_-

[michael14141414]

I wonder why Noah didn't save the dinosaurs...

It's possible he did, but after that, dramatic changes in the environment killed them off.

[Artois]

one word..... aliens O.O (actually a possibility xD)


I will say that the evolution theory is much more likely in my opinion, for several reasons.
The main reason being fossil record, if we go back about 200,000 years ago there are no homo sapiens; however, there are other human like animals.

now my understanding of creationism is that we were all just created and put on the earth as is "poof" and modern man, civilization, and all modern animals here in an instant....

I am not going to rule out the possibility of a higher being starting evolution tho. I definitely believe that is possible because no one knows how it all started (and we probably never will)

I wonder why Noah didn't save the dinosaurs...

I understand that mans ancestors can be traced back to Adam & Eve and thus the begining of the 'poof' as you say to around 6,000-10,000, so we can ignore the dinosaur fossils as God's little prank as they cannot exist before the garden of eden.  Sorry.

but what about Neanderthals and all of the other humanoid animals before us. And why the heck would god create Dinosaur fossils as a prank, that is kind of stupid -_-

Why would god create dinosaur fossils that can be carbon dated to a time before Adam?  To test our faith!

[KyuubisSlave]

one word..... aliens O.O (actually a possibility xD)


I will say that the evolution theory is much more likely in my opinion, for several reasons.
The main reason being fossil record, if we go back about 200,000 years ago there are no homo sapiens; however, there are other human like animals.

now my understanding of creationism is that we were all just created and put on the earth as is "poof" and modern man, civilization, and all modern animals here in an instant....

I am not going to rule out the possibility of a higher being starting evolution tho. I definitely believe that is possible because no one knows how it all started (and we probably never will)

I wonder why Noah didn't save the dinosaurs...

I understand that mans ancestors can be traced back to Adam & Eve and thus the begining of the 'poof' as you say to around 6,000-10,000, so we can ignore the dinosaur fossils as God's little prank as they cannot exist before the garden of eden.  Sorry.

but what about Neanderthals and all of the other humanoid animals before us. And why the heck would god create Dinosaur fossils as a prank, that is kind of stupid -_-

Why would god create dinosaur fossils that can be carbon dated to a time before Adam?  To test our faith!

LMAO XD and why would he need to do that xD

[BluePriest]

It is expected that at the time of the Flood, the earth was in chaos. Volcanoes, Massive Hurricanes, Storms Like we have never seen. This would have completely screwed over any carbon dating from before this time. Radio-Isotope Dating is another thing, but Carbon Dating, its not even usable for things greater than abuot 6-10,000 years (I forget the exact amount) in the first place.

[KyuubisSlave]

It is expected that at the time of the Flood, the earth was in chaos. Volcanoes, Massive Hurricanes, Storms Like we have never seen. This would have completely screwed over any carbon dating from before this time. Radio-Isotope Dating is another thing, but Carbon Dating, its not even usable for things greater than abuot 6-10,000 years (I forget the exact amount) in the first place.

traditional carbon 14 dating goes back 50,000 years, however we have other ways of dating things xD carbon 14 is most definitely not the only radioactive isotope we can use to date things after all.

[BluePriest]

is it really 50,000??? Hmm, I dont seem to remember that, nevertheless, as Ive pointed out, it is easily disturbed. Now, when it comes to Radio-Isotopes, God created everything in an adult form, and so the radio-isotopes of everything would already be off, and especially if you dont believe it is a literal 7 days, it explains the Isotopes as well.

[KyuubisSlave]

is it really 50,000??? Hmm, I dont seem to remember that, nevertheless, as Ive pointed out, it is easily disturbed. Now, when it comes to Radio-Isotopes, God created everything in an adult form, and so the radio-isotopes of everything would already be off, and especially if you dont believe it is a literal 7 days, it explains the Isotopes as well.

you really have very little understanding of the way we date things do you?

[BluePriest]

is it really 50,000??? Hmm, I dont seem to remember that, nevertheless, as Ive pointed out, it is easily disturbed. Now, when it comes to Radio-Isotopes, God created everything in an adult form, and so the radio-isotopes of everything would already be off, and especially if you dont believe it is a literal 7 days, it explains the Isotopes as well.

you really have very little understanding of the way we date things do you?

nope not at all. This is actually one of the more scientific hard data things that I looked at. Tell me, how am I missing it? I never said the data was innacurate, all I simply pointed out is that it doesnt in any way contradict the bible.