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Do Aliens worship the same Islamic/Jewish/Christain God as us? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6501.msg67870#msg67870
« on: May 12, 2010, 11:17:55 pm »
I wonder if God had another Jesus for the other worlds out there, or if we are his one and only special playthings?

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Re: Do Aliens worship the same Islamic/Jewish/Christain God as us? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6501.msg67945#msg67945
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2010, 02:23:44 am »
A better question would be:Is there alien?
which should be posted in the "off-topic" selection  :D

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Re: Do Aliens worship the same Islamic/Jewish/Christain God as us? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6501.msg67950#msg67950
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2010, 02:53:30 am »
If there was ever an unanswerable question, this is it.

What if there are aliens but no intelligent ones? A god wouldn't need to bother with them in terms of laying out rules and such to follow. Out of all the species on earth, only one is intelligent (dolphins/orcas may be though, we aren't too sure how intelligent they are... they have more cortex than humans, but it's believed that it's mostly used for their echolocation/communication, the latter of which is only about eleven signals, plus I think the cortex mass is relative to body size in terms of intelligence). Basically, humans far surpass anything else on earth. While we have recent ancestors, we can't judge how high their intelligence was. For all we know, they may have all been equal to us. My point is that if there is only one intelligent species on earth, and life has been here for, what, four billion years? that it wouldn't be surprising if there is none elsewhere. Even if there is intelligent life on par with us, I doubt we'll ever know. The distances between us are too vast. I doubt we'll ever get anywhere close to the speed of light, and I doubt we'll ever bend space-time so we can go from one place to another instantly. Any electromagnetic based communication is also unlikely.

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Re: Do Aliens worship the same Islamic/Jewish/Christain God as us? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6501.msg67951#msg67951
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2010, 02:54:17 am »
I wonder if God had another Jesus for the other worlds out there, or if we are his one and only special playthings?
If aliens did have some divine experience with the same (fictional, IMO) God of Judaism/Christianity/Islam, then that would be inconsistent with the human experience. Peoples around the world did not have separate revelations. Instead, everything started with the ancient Hebrews and then spread and mutated through contact with other nations.

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Re: Do Aliens worship the same Islamic/Jewish/Christain God as us? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6501.msg68010#msg68010
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2010, 08:47:42 am »
A better question would be:Is there alien?
which should be posted in the "off-topic" selection  :D
That wasn't my question, but you can ask it if you like  :P

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Re: Do Aliens worship the same Islamic/Jewish/Christain God as us? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6501.msg68011#msg68011
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2010, 08:50:35 am »
I wonder if God had another Jesus for the other worlds out there, or if we are his one and only special playthings?
If aliens did have some divine experience with the same (fictional, IMO) God of Judaism/Christianity/Islam, then that would be inconsistent with the human experience. Peoples around the world did not have separate revelations. Instead, everything started with the ancient Hebrews and then spread and mutated through contact with other nations.
But the Hebrew old testament is a boiling pot of retold tales from older civilisations, some of which worshipped a different God, but the tales were turned to fit the Hebrew myths, no?

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Re: Do Aliens worship the same Islamic/Jewish/Christain God as us? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6501.msg68017#msg68017
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2010, 09:09:45 am »
Surely Demagog, there is a huge Galaxy containing an untold number of planets that exist in a similar biologically friendly stasis(?).  Further, the likelihood of advanced life out there is more probable than, say, the existance of God for example, statistically speaking.

Within this realm, of untold, far spread, living beings, I bet religion has or does play a part.

But what is the likelihood that it is as different as Buddhism is to Islam?

As for bending space & time... well, I'm sure it's impossible, but to anyone from Roman times, travelling to the moon is impossible.  The future is scientific.

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Re: Do Aliens worship the same Islamic/Jewish/Christain God as us? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6501.msg68025#msg68025
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2010, 09:50:11 am »
As for bending space & time... well, I'm sure it's impossible, but to anyone from Roman times, travelling to the moon is impossible.  The future is scientific.
All energy and matter bends the space-time around it. It becomes noticeable with something the mass of a star, and is even more noticeable with a dark hole. There is nothing in physics to suggest that you couldn't make a wormhole, yet we have no clue how to go about making one. It is likely something that would require the power of a star.

Btw if no one has posted since your last post it is customary on these forums to edit your last post instead of making a new one. If you're replying to several people you could just use a horizontal line like the one above to make the post tidier. ( 'hr' tag - you can quote the post to see it.)

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Re: Do Aliens worship the same Islamic/Jewish/Christain God as us? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6501.msg68104#msg68104
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2010, 02:15:32 pm »
If aliens did have some divine experience with the same (fictional, IMO) God of Judaism/Christianity/Islam, then that would be inconsistent with the human experience. Peoples around the world did not have separate revelations. Instead, everything started with the ancient Hebrews and then spread and mutated through contact with other nations.
But the Hebrew old testament is a boiling pot of retold tales from older civilisations, some of which worshipped a different God, but the tales were turned to fit the Hebrew myths, no?
How is that relevant? The point is that aliens are separated from us by vast distance. The same thing (on a smaller scale) was true of human societies. If the Aztecs didn't get their own Jesus, why would the silicon tripeds from Zork? It's clear from human history that (fictional) God doesn't mind leaving people in the dark for a long time.

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Re: Do Aliens worship the same Islamic/Jewish/Christain God as us? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6501.msg68106#msg68106
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2010, 02:20:12 pm »
Simples.  I'm merely stating that it didn't start with the Hebrews, in fact the Hebrews copied from older religions/civilisations and I find that curious as they adapted other Gods tales into their, and as such the Hebrew God is based on polytheistic/infidel texts.  That's all.

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Re: Do Aliens worship the same Islamic/Jewish/Christain God as us? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6501.msg68114#msg68114
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2010, 02:49:34 pm »
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Why do most discussions in the religion section start talking about the hebrew God? I think its sorta funny. Thats not what this is about, its about aliens, stop Giving God so much credit, he doesnt have to be the basis of EVERYTHING. have a discussion without the hebrew God for once. If you want, make a discussion that says hebrew gods are stupid, and stop invading other topics
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In all seriousness, I do think its funny how the hebrew god is almost ALWAYS brought up, and everyone tries to discredit him, if anything I think it shows how threatening he really is to people. This topic isnt about if God exists, its about aliens.
Regardless of someones personal views on an omnipotent being, this topic is essentially saying "assuming some type of god exists, and assuming aliens exist, is that god worshiped by aliens as well"


back on topic.

If you wanted this discussion taken seriously, then I would say that I highly doubt it, unless you consider angels aliens, as there is no other life aside from them that is mentioned in the old or new testament. Thats from a christian/jewish point of view though. I cant say for islamic.
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Re: Do Aliens worship the same Islamic/Jewish/Christain God as us? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6501.msg68118#msg68118
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2010, 02:59:25 pm »
Im not sure where you are coming from Blue Priest...

however, I am more curious as to whether in all likelihood aliens worship the same God as us, and if they don't what will be the implications on first contact?

i am led to believe a similar effect was felt by the eskimo on first contact with outside cultures, resulting in a breakdown of their known world, and assumed truths.

 

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