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Re: Disprove the bible to me https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8621.msg113579#msg113579
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2010, 04:47:12 pm »
To speak about it is wasting lifetime. I dont need to disprove something I cant even prove. Its not human nature to believe in something not provable, its irrational. Or do you believe someone talking about vampires, dragons, faeries and whatever. At least I assume something not provable to be wrong, otherwise I would need to believe all .... . Even more if we talk about the past.
I have had all the proof I need from first hand experiences.

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There are no accidents. We have not come here by chance. I do not believe in chance when I see three objectives, three captains, three ships. I do not see coincidence, I see providence, I see purpose.
I think nobody can disprove it for you then. And proof is something you can demonstrate regardless of time and location.

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Re: Disprove the bible to me https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8621.msg113647#msg113647
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2010, 06:24:45 pm »
So what you are saying is I dont have a good reason NOT to believe it then correct? Thats what it seems like to me.
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Re: Disprove the bible to me https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8621.msg113661#msg113661
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2010, 06:43:05 pm »
I say there is no reason to believe in god and nobody is able to disprove it to you regardless of what somebody will say.

Re: Disprove the bible to me https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8621.msg113663#msg113663
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2010, 06:44:17 pm »
This topic makes me laugh - the title, the fact that all posts have been wider than they are long...

I'm waiting for it to wind up, then I'll make some popcorn.  :D

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Re: Disprove the bible to me https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8621.msg113745#msg113745
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2010, 07:47:45 pm »
I say there is no reason to believe in god and nobody is able to disprove it to you regardless of what somebody will say.
I have plenty of reasons to believe in God, but this topic isnt about proving the bible, its about DISPROVING the bible. As of right now, you havent given me a single reason NOT to though.
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Re: Disprove the bible to me https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8621.msg113814#msg113814
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2010, 08:45:24 pm »
Common sense.

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Re: Disprove the bible to me https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8621.msg113818#msg113818
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2010, 08:50:50 pm »
can you prove that its real?

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Re: Disprove the bible to me https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8621.msg113866#msg113866
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2010, 10:22:51 pm »
Common sense.
By whos common sense? Using something that is relative is pointless. And just because its common sense, it doesnt mean it is correct. Say im playing a game, the enemy Is looking at me, all of a sudden a part of him opens up, and a glowing part is revealed. What does your common sense tell you?

can you prove that its real?
but this topic isnt about proving the bible, its about DISPROVING the bible.
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Re: Disprove the bible to me https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8621.msg113893#msg113893
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2010, 11:01:00 pm »
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By whos common sense? Using something that is relative is pointless. And just because its common sense, it doesnt mean it is correct. Say im playing a game, the enemy Is looking at me, all of a sudden a part of him opens up, and a glowing part is revealed. What does your common sense tell you?
Kill it.  With fire.

Everything we use is relative to a degree, though.  This is the whole basis behind the philosophy that states we can't ever truly know anything - while impractical, that philosophy does point out one very important thing: the sensory degree-of-separation between us and reality.  All we know is screened through what we perceive with our senses.

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Re: Disprove the bible to me https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8621.msg114082#msg114082
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2010, 04:56:02 am »
fair enough here are a few of my favorite direct quotes from the bible that are show god and his holy book to be abhorrent,evil,inhumane, or just plain stupid
Deut 25:11-12
 If men get into a fight with one another, and the wife of one intervenes to rescue her husband from the grip of his opponent by reaching out and seizing his genitals, you shall cut off her hand; show no pity-
Gen 38:8-10
Then Judah said to Onan, ‘Go in to your brother’s wife and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her; raise up offspring for your brother.’ But since Onan knew that the offspring would not be his, he spilled his semen on the ground whenever he went in to his brother’s wife, so that he would not give offspring to his brother. What he did was displeasing in the sight of the Lord, and he put him to death also
Deut 21:18-21
If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father and mother, who does not heed them when they discipline him, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his town at the gate of that place. They shall say to the elders of his town, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of the town shall stone him to death. So you shall purge the evil from your midst; and all Israel will hear, and be afraid....this is for all of you who point to leviticus and condemn homosexuals...i assume you are also killing your kids for backtalking
Deut 20:10-18
When you draw near to a town to fight against it, offer it terms of peace. If it accepts your terms of peace and surrenders to you, then all the people in it shall serve you in forced labour. If it does not submit to you peacefully, but makes war against you, then you shall besiege it; and when the Lord your God gives it into your hand, you shall put all its males to the sword. You may, however, take as your booty the women, the children, livestock, and everything else in the town, all its spoil. You may enjoy the spoil of your enemies, which the Lord your God has given you. Thus you shall treat all the towns that are very far from you, which are not towns of the nations here. But as for the towns of these peoples that the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, you must not let anything that breathes remain alive. You shall annihilate them—the Hittites and the Amorites, the Canaanites and the Perizzites, the Hivites and the Jebusites—just as the Lord your God has commanded, so that they may not teach you to do all the abhorrent things that they do for their gods, and you thus sin against the Lord your God.----god loves ...to kill and kill...oh except the virgins youll note..theyre for raping later

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Re: Disprove the bible to me https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8621.msg114086#msg114086
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2010, 05:05:49 am »
Ex 35:2
For six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day you shall have a holy sabbath of solemn rest to the Lord; whoever does any work on it shall be put to death.-essentially this means execute anyone watching football on sunday
Ex 21:20-21
 When a slave-owner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished. But if the slave survives for a day or two, there is no punishment; for the slave is the owner’s property...god loves that slavery!
Num 31:14-18
Moses became angry with the officers of the army, the commanders of thousands and the commanders of hundreds, who had come from service in the war. Moses said to them, ‘Have you allowed all the women to live? These women here, on Balaam’s advice, made the Israelites act treacherously against the Lord in the affair of Peor, so that the plague came among the congregation of the Lord.Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known a man by sleeping with him. But all the young girls who have not known a man by sleeping with him, keep alive for yourselves....well at least gods consistent...kill everyione except save the virgins for agood ole gang bang later..what a sick perverted fuck your god is
1Tim 2:11-12
Let a woman learn in silence with full submission. I permit no woman* to teach or to have authority over a man; she is to keep silent.
...and hes a mysoginist too!
Col 3:22-24
Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything, not only while being watched and in order to please them, but wholeheartedly, fearing the Lord. Whatever your task, put yourselves into it, as done for the Lord and not for your masters, since you know that from the Lord you will receive the inheritance as your reward; you serve the Lord Christ...yep slaves serve christ..WOW

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Re: Disprove the bible to me https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8621.msg114088#msg114088
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2010, 05:10:47 am »
just a few more ....
Luke 14:26
Whoever comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and even life itself, cannot be my disciple....this is christ speaking
Deut 22:13-21
Suppose a man marries a woman, but after going in to her, he dislikes her and makes up charges against her, slandering her by saying, ‘I married this woman; but when I lay with her, I did not find evidence of her virginity.’ The father of the young woman and her mother shall then submit the evidence of the young woman’s virginity to the elders of the city at the gate. The father of the young woman shall say to the elders: ‘I gave my daughter in marriage to this man but he dislikes her; now he has made up charges against her, saying, “I did not find evidence of your daughter’s virginity.” But here is the evidence of my daughter’s virginity.’ Then they shall spread out the cloth before the elders of the town. The elders of that town shall take the man and punish him; they shall fine him one hundred shekels of silver (which they shall give to the young woman’s father) because he has slandered a virgin of Israel. She shall remain his wife; he shall not be permitted to divorce her as long as he lives.
 If, however, this charge is true, that evidence of the young woman’s virginity was not found, then they shall bring the young woman out to the entrance of her father’s house and the men of her town shall stone her to death, because she committed a disgraceful act in Israel by prostituting herself in her father’s house. So you shall purge the evil from your midst....in a nut shell if shes not a virgin on yer wedding night kill her and dump her at her parents door...this is what your sick-minded god wants
i could go on but my point is this if you wave the bible it includes all ive quoted..nothing out of ocontext...you cannot cut ouit the bad parts and just keep the good parts sorry..the bible is so crazy a book..and one more thing...isnt it odd that shakespeare is a better writer than god?if you want more ididnt even get to the endorsing if incest or the babybashing....

 

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