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Opponents, Strategy and Decks => Random, Normal and Elder => Topic started by: Seph454 on July 29, 2010, 05:41:53 am
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The fastest I've found is the mono life heal rush but is there a better one when your going for fast and EM?
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Not that i've found. If you want EM's the mono-life one is probably the best. I tried the vampire/adrenaline deck but it's just not as good.
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You could try Mono-Light
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The Archangels (upgrade necessary) make the damage (and can heal themselves), the Miracles heal you to 99HP before you make your final strike, the Holy Flashs (upgrade necessary!) make the last 1 HP and can kill creatures like the Parasite.
You could use a Light Nymph for more damage. Light Dragons normally cost too much.
The Morning Glories are necessary to win against some opponents (Gravity Shield).
I took a Mirror Shield,because it´s the best Shield, Mono - Light has now. You could use a Solar Buckler, if it gets a buff.
Perhaps you could find a better number of Miracles and Holy Flashs.
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imo
-1 miracle +1 Holy Flash
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or -1 Mirror Shield +1 Holy Flash.
4 Flashs seem to be better, I tried it. I´ll give some statistics for the deck with -1 Mirror , +1 Holy Flash.
At the moment, it´s
14 EMs, 2 * 99HP, 3 normal win (<99 HP), 1 loss because of stupidness.
Didn´t count the number of drawn cards in all games, but the wins are in ca 10 turns.
The new earth deck seems to be the hardest enemy.
Will be updated.
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The deck looks decent it just wouldn't be able to match the speed of the mono-life. In case people don't know the deck here it is. With 15 cards in the deck doing damage with the majority being 3 :life or less CC such as rewind, lightning, etc isn't crippling. Those 15 cards also only cost 52 :life quanta compared to 45 :light quanta for 7 cards.
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I'll suggest supernova speed rainbow with healing if you don't want mono life
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Thanks for the replies, after testing it seems mono life is the way to go for fast and EM. Decks like shrieker, speedbow, and golem rush are faster but the EM rate is almost nothing.
On another note, do you think the dragons are good in the deck? They are alway dead weight in my hand, ive been testing between them and epinephrine. I've also been testing one long sword in the deck which I really like since its so cheap for the damage it deals
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Thanks for the replies, after testing it seems mono life is the way to go for fast and EM. Decks like shrieker, speedbow, and golem rush are faster but the EM rate is almost nothing.
On another note, do you think the dragons are good in the deck? They are alway dead weight in my hand, ive been testing between them and epinephrine. I've also been testing one long sword in the deck which I really like since its so cheap for the damage it deals
Yeah the dragons can be dead weight but I think they work okay. Adding a long sword in lieu of 1 dragon sounds like a good idea actually.
ETA - after playing with the long sword in the deck i find that i like it much better. I've had a few draws where i have only had 1 pillar in my opening hand with the long sword. Makes the deck better IMO, good call.
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The deck looks decent it just wouldn't be able to match the speed of the mono-life. In case people don't know the deck here it is. With 15 cards in the deck doing damage with the majority being 3 :life or less CC such as rewind, lightning, etc isn't crippling. Those 15 cards also only cost 52 :life quanta compared to 45 :light quanta for 7 cards.
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Yeah that is the absolute best EM grinder for AI3. I use it quite a lot with great results.
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Try it with taking out one dragon and adding a long sword. I find that works better. I don't farm AI3 much but i'm 28-0 with 24 EM's so far with this version.
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I haven't actually had the chance to try it, but does anyone know how well adrenalined staves would work against AI3?
I've heard good things about that deck :)
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I haven't actually had the chance to try it, but does anyone know how well adrenalined staves would work against AI3?
I've heard good things about that deck :)
Great when they work. However, infection and reverse time completely shut the deck down.
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Try it with taking out one dragon and adding a long sword. I find that works better. I don't farm AI3 much but i'm 28-0 with 24 EM's so far with this version.
wouldn't two jade staves be better than a staff and a long sword?
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I haven't actually had the chance to try it, but does anyone know how well adrenalined staves would work against AI3?
I've heard good things about that deck :)
Adrenalined staff decks work okay but this deck works much better. This deck virtually can't lose and will EM most of the time. Flying weapon decks have a lot of trouble with rewind and combined with adrenaline that means you won't have many other creatures if any. Also those decks are slower and very susceptible to other CC (infection). This card has so many cheap creatures (15) CC doesn't really affect it at all. Also the healing in the deck can't be blocked or stalled by shields or spells.
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Try it with taking out one dragon and adding a long sword. I find that works better. I don't farm AI3 much but i'm 28-0 with 24 EM's so far with this version.
wouldn't two jade staves be better than a staff and a long sword?
I thought of that but the 1 cost for the sword + 2 extra damage probably works better. This deck already has so much healing the extra damage seems better. Also i've had 4 games where i've started off with 1 tower and the long sword. The sword i think makes the deck much smoother in getting out early damage.
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I have great success with both of these variants on a theme:
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The first is a little quicker but actually EMs less often; the bottom is my main "I don't want to have to think right now" AI3 moneymaker.
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I did more testing on speed and EM'ing and came up with this deck. its pretty much the fastest deck you can make with a high EM chance. It can win in 4 turns and has a 70% EM rate versus AI3.
The Ultimate Speed EM Deck
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(http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10563.0.html)
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Mono life is the best. Its almost like having hax and a cheat code. Though I do get sleepy after playing it for an hour, so I'm farming HBs now :P
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