New Elder proposal

[Shantu]

It should prove useful. I already built my Elder proposals with these in mind.

[Jappert]

It should prove useful. I already built my Elder proposals with these in mind.

Same

That's why I centered my first suggestion around the Warden/Trident  /  theme.

[rowcla]

I should be resting for my trip tomorrow. Instead I'm browsing the Elements forums.

Anyway, IMO AI3s should not only be fun but also be good sources of cards for the players, to maybe decrease the time they spend farming AI3 for that card pool. You could point to AI2/1, but due to the semi-random decks of those AI levels, those wouldn't be good sources of cards. And yeah they can get those cards from the Bazaar, but a few more free cards from spins can't hurt anyone.

With that in mind, I've put together a list of cards that current Elder decks lack. I can't predict how useful this would be, or whether or not making new Elders focused on including more of these cards would help new players enough to make a difference. This list is just for reference. (Note: Nymphs are of course not included; the Red and Auburn Nymphs show up as Relics anyway. Also, please point out any mistakes I made.)

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4t3 4t4 4t5 4tb 4tc 4vg 4vh 4vi 4vj 4vn 52i 52l 52m 52o 52s 52u 542 55p 55u 562 58p 58q 58s 58t 591 596 5aa 5c1 5c3 5c9 5f1 5f2 5f4 5f5 5f9 5gi 5i5 5i6 5ia 5ic 5if 5ig 5ih 5jm 5l9 5la 5lc 5ld 5lg 5lj 5lm 5od 5of 5oh 5oi 5ok 5om 5ri 5rj 5rm

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5rn 5ro 5ru 5um 5ut 5uv 5v1 606 622 63a

Unless I miscounted (a large possibility), there are 70 non-rare cards that can't be won from the AI3.

Some statistics: Death, Earth, and Light have the most unused cards in Elder decks (7 each), while Gravity, Life, and Aether have the least (3, 3, and 2 respectively). Make of that what you will.

wow, good going

although Procastination shouldnt be in there and furthermore water has the most cards missing with 8, still though nice going 

[ralouf]

Procranistation is in the boring light/time AI
I'm almost sure that the entropy death play virus

[Jappert]

Procranistation is in the boring light/time AI

Indeed.

I'm almost sure that the entropy death play virus

Nope, he doesn't!

[ralouf]

Okay so sorry :/ That is due to the fact I don't look at what the opponent play when I farm AI 3

[MatrimKK]

I'm just really glad none of them use Antimatter >.>

[ralouf]

Yeah I don't really want to see AI3 with AM too ^^
But cards like trident or abyss crawler should be used..

Btw nobody have comments on the deck I proposed ?

[Pineapple]

I'm just really glad none of them use Antimatter >.>

I was thinking about that with Rain of Fire when I heard the Steam Machine deck used Rain of Fire, but I got over it.
I believe that AI3 needs to be as hard as a real opponent, and that AI2 should have the same difficulty as old (1.26-) AI3.
Therefore, they should be able to use all cards, even if the card is annoying.

[Shantu]

by Shantu

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5i6 5i6 5i7 5i7 5ia 5ie 5if 5ig 5ig 5ig 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5ri 5ri 5rk 5ro 5ro 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 8pp

Control: 2 Freezes, 1 Reverse Time, 2 Eternities, possible squid from Fate Egg, Toadfish/Mind Flayer/other hatched creature if up against Discord
Rares: 2 Eternities

It's supposed to be a rush-like thing. On a very good draw it can even win in 7 turns. On the contrary, it's very weak to quanta denial since it's on the limit already, and bad draws do happen. AI will play Nymph Tears on pendulums always. I really like this deck and I meant to post this about a month ago just forgot about it.

[Jappert]

by Jappert

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5i6 5i6 5i7 5i7 5ia 5ie 5if 5ig 5ig 5ig 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5ri 5ri 5rk 5ro 5ro 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 8pp

Control: 2 Freezes, 1 Reverse Time, 2 Eternities, possible squid from Fate Egg, Toadfish/Mind Flayer/other hatched creature if up against Discord
Rares: 2 Eternities

It's supposed to be a rush-like thing. On a very good draw it can even win in 7 turns. On the contrary, it's very weak to quanta denial since it's on the limit already, and bad draws do happen. AI will play Nymph Tears on pendulums always. I really like this deck and I meant to post this about a month ago just forgot about it.

Added! Thanks for reviving this topic, I forgot all about it

[rowcla]

reckoned that we need a level 3 with trident so i made this

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58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58r 58r 591 591 591 591 595 595 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i6 5i6 5i6 5i7 5i7 5i9 5i9 5ic 5ic 5id 5id
i was trying to make it at the level of the current level threes and stopping it from being too annoying

comments welcome

hmm theres a list now? what about mine?

oh and btw while i was writing this i got a red nymph! yay