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Re: Oracle : Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610.msg1072198#msg1072198
« Reply #120 on: May 20, 2013, 08:10:44 am »
Lobos are excluded for a good reason. You need excess quanta because of Rainbow's extreme amounts of PC; he'll completely deny you of quanta if you don't have enough. Furthermore, Rainbow either Explodes your Lobos, which leaves you with less space in the deck for quanta, or worse; he'll Steal them. Why is this worse than him having an EE and killing off your Rays one by one? Because Rays without an ability can't be replaced and he won't CC them. This'll cost you several games.
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Re: Oracle : Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610.msg1072206#msg1072206
« Reply #121 on: May 20, 2013, 08:47:07 am »
Good point. I wasn't paying attention to the fact that Rainbow had steals since there were no permanents in the deck to make steal relevant.

And I had a ridiculous amount of excess quanta, but that's probably because I bottom decked four fractals. Derp.

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Re: Oracle : Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610.msg1072349#msg1072349
« Reply #122 on: May 20, 2013, 05:49:21 pm »
Yeah, that shouldn't happen often at all as long as you're not me and playing in the Master's Tourney, lol. (>_>)

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Re: Oracle : Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610.msg1076729#msg1076729
« Reply #123 on: June 03, 2013, 03:33:08 am »
Just beat Rainbow with this semi-upped version of the OP.

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Re: Oracle : Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610.msg1087766#msg1087766
« Reply #124 on: July 19, 2013, 12:16:13 am »
I've tried a lot of decks against rainbow, from black hole/quicksand denial to RoL/hope to speedbows to voodoo decks, and quite a few other crazy ideas.  The best I ever had was SPlat, but that doesn't work anymore.  I tried my (very successful) Hermes killer out on my oracle: rainbow prediction,  thinking that Rainbow has a similar playstyle, only with HG/miracle, so it might be effective.  I managed to get a win, albeit with 3hp, but it's something I can't recall anyone ever posting about trying against Rainbow before.  Rainbow played one miracle in the game, but didn't have quanta for a second.



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Re: Oracle : Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610.msg1090800#msg1090800
« Reply #125 on: August 05, 2013, 01:49:20 am »
I used New Old Times, Semi Upped
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Re: Oracle : Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610.msg1095038#msg1095038
« Reply #126 on: August 28, 2013, 06:36:43 pm »
Tried the semi upped New Old-Times deck with some additional upped pillars and shards swapped in.
Got pounded pretty bad, but could be due to a bad draw. Looks good on paper, but he kept oppressing my quanta by shredding and stealing pillars.
With all pillars upped to towers, I might have still pulled it off though.
This deck seems like the best bet for those with limited upgrade and rares though.
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Re: Oracle : Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610.msg1095299#msg1095299
« Reply #127 on: August 30, 2013, 11:15:11 am »
Using SoP has pros and cons. If you're forced to pack less quanta, you're in big trouble. It also adds a weakness to PC and can screw you up when trying to get past Miracle since your Rays might just be 5/5's and you can't burst damage anymore. On the plus side, the Rays can survive more CC from EE's, and if you're too dumb to burst damage with Fractal, you won't have to think about that anymore.

All in all, there's a reason the counter deck has so much quanta and 6 Fractals. It's a good deal more consistent than SoP usage because most losses come from quanta deprivation, not Ray deaths, and SoP usage adds big weaknesses.
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Re: Oracle : Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610.msg1098222#msg1098222
« Reply #128 on: September 20, 2013, 04:09:54 pm »
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It's a nice try against rainbow, but what killed me was his Eagle's Eye. This deck has no way past that.
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Re: Oracle : Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610.msg1098223#msg1098223
« Reply #129 on: September 20, 2013, 04:13:21 pm »
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It's a nice try against rainbow, but what killed me was his Eagle's Eye. This deck has no way past that.

If you can last long enough to get the quanta for it, maybe a miracle? If not, maybe replace a couple bolts with SoDs? Assuming you mean the damage from eagle eye was fatal, I'd think there's some way to squeeze in some healing to outlast it.

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Re: Oracle : Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610.msg1101437#msg1101437
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I got an em on rainbow with this, but I did get lucky in that I drew 2 dimensional shields in my opening hand.  He stole one then focused on my hourglasses after I got them out


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Re: Oracle : Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610.msg1106572#msg1106572
« Reply #131 on: October 30, 2013, 09:33:12 am »
What worked for me today even with a bad draw:

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