Post by: majofa on July 13, 2010, 07:18:38 pm
Post by: godofdeath500 on July 13, 2010, 07:52:23 pm
But there is no deck that can beat rainbow without rares or upped cards. He is simply too strong.
But let me know if you do find a deck like that, because if you do, pigs will fly.
(and dont try to use the swine flu joke, lol)
Post by: majofa on July 13, 2010, 08:11:09 pm
Post by: godofdeath500 on July 13, 2010, 09:04:04 pm
Well, it doesn't have to be an elite deck that can win 80-90% of the time. A deck that could at least give someone a fighting chance would suffice.thats just it. rainbow is far too strong too be beaten with a unupped deck. You wouldn't even stand a chance against him unupped because he has too explosions and steals.
EDIT: The only deck that i can think of is SG's False God Rainbow:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1615.0.html
Post by: majofa on July 14, 2010, 03:01:27 am
Post by: godofdeath500 on July 14, 2010, 04:56:37 am
needs some decks that work well specifcally against Rainbowfirst of all, take out two gravity shields and add in a few more deflags. or take out three and add an oty and firestorm or something similar.Code: [Select]55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55p 55p 55p 55p 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 592 592 592 592 592 594 594 595 595 5f0 5f0 5f6 5fa 5fa 621 621
or start over and go mono Aether. it has the best chance against rainbow.
Post by: Nume on July 14, 2010, 04:03:23 pm
Post by: Glitch on July 14, 2010, 05:23:37 pm
Rainbow can be easily beaten if you know he's coming. Go gravity+earth, use otyugh to control and heavy armor to get him big enough, and use black holes and earthquakes to put rainbow in it's place.
Post by: kobisjeruk on July 20, 2010, 07:16:06 pm
first of all, take out two gravity shields and add in a few more deflags. or take out three and add an oty and firestorm or something similar.i would advise you to ignore anything this poster has to say because most of the comments i've seen him post on anti-FG strategies is either trolling/misleading/false
or start over and go mono Aether. it has the best chance against rainbow.
on-topic:
that unupped seems fine on defense (grav.shield is the best against her) but unfortunately you're relying on just 2 golems to do your bidding which in this case is not enough. you will probably decked out before you can finish her off due to half a dozens Miracle shes packing
Post by: Nume on July 20, 2010, 07:53:06 pm
Post by: Baldylocks on October 04, 2010, 01:34:44 am
Post by: kobisjeruk on October 04, 2010, 08:05:13 am
just one hit is all it takes...but rainbow does have 6 miracles so they might be able to outrace your damage unless you have something to counter their damage potential, say a protected gravity shield
i'd go with something tricolor like dune scorpion, momentum, grav.shield, basilisk blood, enchant artifact, eternity (to avoid deckout)
i'll post a test decklist later (i dont like using trainer and i only test oracle-fg deck when facing them for real)
Post by: twinsbuster on October 04, 2010, 08:50:44 am
you dont even need quint for the dune scorpionsYour build sound much better, but I'll go for the full defense strategy.
just one hit is all it takes...but rainbow does have 6 miracles so they might be able to outrace your damage unless you have something to counter their damage potential, say a protected gravity shield
i'd go with something tricolor like dune scorpion, momentum, grav.shield, basilisk blood, enchant artifact, eternity (to avoid deckout)
i'll post a test decklist later (i dont like using trainer and i only test oracle-fg deck when facing them for real)
Due to the Miracles, the best way to win with an unupped deck is to deck her out, and I'll need some heal to overcome weapon, forest spirit and shrieker damage.
Post by: Higurashi on October 04, 2010, 09:42:46 am
Hm.. I haven't tried Antimatter/Liquid Shadow against Rainbow, but my experience tells me the CPU can't calculate the damage from that and shouldn't use Miracle.
Post by: kobisjeruk on October 04, 2010, 11:11:26 am
plus their creatures are less susceptible to the combo (burrowed and growth) so you need a lobo effect
but lobo need protection so you can either go quint+m.flayer or lobo+PA which means another 2 elements on top of :entropy + :darkness
its just not feasible imo
and yes, decking out is the best way for unupped but you need ways to counter at most 47(+20) damage coming your way in order to do that
assuming you went gravity shield route, burrowed shriekers x8 will do 40 (at most, if all in play), EE doing another 7 and thunderbolt x4 another 20 (not per turn but still need to be considered)
Post by: Higurashi on October 04, 2010, 11:25:29 am
Post by: twinsbuster on October 04, 2010, 12:06:32 pm
assuming you went gravity shield route, burrowed shriekers x8 will do 40 (at most, if all in play), EE doing another 7 and thunderbolt x4 another 20 (not per turn but still need to be considered)
more than that, shriekers will hit you 12 damage before they burrow, forest spirit deal you 6 damage before they are blocked. So...it's too harsh.
Post by: kobisjeruk on October 04, 2010, 03:31:03 pm
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So...it's too harsh.you're agreeing with me and contradicting yourself at the same time
so...i dont know how to make of that
conclusion is, unupped deck need some serious miracle (pun intended) in order to win vs Rainbow
Post by: Avenger on October 23, 2010, 03:18:07 pm
*facepalm*That's a somewhat weak tactic as you need more than one oty to keep up control. Which means you need to protect your oty too.
Rainbow can be easily beaten if you know he's coming. Go gravity+earth, use otyugh to control and heavy armor to get him big enough, and use black holes and earthquakes to put rainbow in it's place.
Black holes won't provide enough healing either. I'm unsure if you can keep the quanta production of Rainbow under control too.
Which means, it is futile to use earthquakes.
I would use gravity/time, stalling with dune scorpions. No need to protect the scorpions, one bite (early) is enough to make Rainbow suffer. You just need to survive the damage and decking out, rewinding growing creatures/graboids. Sadly the black holes are still not enough for healing. Turtle shield needs protection and the need of a 3rd element makes this deck a bit fragile.
Post by: majofa on November 02, 2010, 08:31:36 am
Post by: hklown on December 05, 2010, 11:56:16 am
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Any ideas/comments on the deck?
EDIT: Incidentally, this works really well vs osiris if you get a momentumed dune scorp out early :P
Post by: onetwentysix on January 01, 2011, 10:33:42 pm
It probably depends on draws though; without any AM/LS pairs in your hand, you're not doing well, and he needs to grow his spirits quickly to around 10 or so before killing you. Still, it was a really easy win for me, at least.
Post by: coldfusion on January 02, 2011, 12:21:05 pm
Post by: majofa on January 02, 2011, 04:43:38 pm
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Post by: chb369 on January 04, 2011, 02:03:02 am
Post by: TheIdioticIdiot on January 04, 2011, 02:04:30 am
i got completely owned using the second deck (fire/aether/earth), and yes i used the gravity shield, but then rainbow uses deflag on it, and my fire pillar, so i lose.note: i used a modified version of the deck replacing deflageration with explosion, and replacing every single earth pillar with a earth tower. where did i do wrong?try using the enchant artifacts?
on like everything?
Post by: chb369 on January 04, 2011, 02:15:59 am
Post by: funplay on January 04, 2011, 12:25:08 pm
Especially for those hard to beat ones...?
Edit:
Tried LS/AM deck...and failed. I probably need some more training with that deck^^
But as I had pretty decent draws, i want to share what happend:
I drew 4x AM and 3x LS with enoug quanta to play them till defeat.
He played 2nd turn EE, early spectre and early graboid. Played 1st combo on shrieker to soften early game damage.
Waited for spectre to hit 10 att, played 2nd combo on him.
Meanwhile, i used extra AM on werewolf. Ignored the 2nd werewolf and 2nd shrieker, as 3 more spectres appeared.
Tried to wait for 2nd spectre to hit another 10 att, but miscalculated his damage potential and died when spectre was at 8 att (the other 2 at 6) :(
Surviving the early attacks is really tricky^^ i am not sure if even with my third LS/AM combo it would have been enough healing to actually survive if i played it in time...but if i had saved that early shrieker combo i would have died earlier...what did i do wrong?
Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on January 09, 2011, 04:07:07 pm
Post by: Baily18 on January 18, 2011, 11:16:58 pm
Post by: Ekki on January 18, 2011, 11:32:19 pm
Not if you use Shak'ars.Or RoL/Hope...
I made a 6 upped card version of RoL Hope some time ago, and it has a pretty decent win rate against it (even better if fully upped).
Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on January 18, 2011, 11:45:55 pm
Post by: Ekki on January 18, 2011, 11:51:48 pm
Use CCYB. Smash his Hourglasses, and Fractal HIS LycanthropesI have both CCYB and RoL Hope, and every variation I used was lame against him, since you have to survive until you can fractal his lycans, and even then you have to kill him (miracles FTW), not to mention his huge stall power...
EDIT: BTW, here is the deck...
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Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on January 19, 2011, 12:08:20 am
Pulverizer shuts down his drawing power, and that makes him ridiculously easy. At most he can play 2 Miracles without using his Hourglasses (Estimate). Hopefully Permafrost gets lucky and freezes his spirits. If he steals your Pulverizer near the beginning, you should just quit though.Use CCYB. Smash his Hourglasses, and Fractal HIS LycanthropesI have both CCYB and RoL Hope, and every variation I used was lame against him, since you have to survive until you can fractal his lycans, and even then you have to kill him (miracles FTW), not to mention his huge stall power...
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Post by: Ekki on January 19, 2011, 12:10:45 am
Pulverizer shuts down his drawing power, and that makes him ridiculously easy. At most he can play 2 Miracles without using his Hourglasses (Estimate). Hopefully Permafrost gets lucky and freezes his spirits. If he steals your Pulverizer near the beginning, you should just quit though.You forgot his explosions... And steals. That's what makes him/her nasty
Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on January 19, 2011, 12:24:04 am
Post by: Ekki on January 19, 2011, 12:36:22 am
That's what your Hourglasses are for, or if you have a PA in your deck and put it on the Pulverizer it's GG.Still bad draws screw it up, since you need the shield or you're dead, hourglasses or your perms are dead (and even then he can smash all of them and keep having explosions), a pulvy to slow him down, SoG's to stop from dying (because you still take damage)... CCYB has a hard time against Rainbow, take a look at the god-by-god breakdown.
On the other hand, RoL Hope can deal with the CC and has little problem with PC. I've won against him lots of times with it, at least more than 50%
Post by: Higurashi on January 19, 2011, 08:38:11 am
+30-card Rolhope decks on the other hand can actually win all of them provided even mediocre draws. How? Deckout. Winning by stalling enough to Fractal Archangels (the fastest option) past the Miracles is your second best bet, but won't happen very often. Since deckout is the easiest method, many still opt to skip her as it takes ages. Also, most run 30-card rolhope decks, which makes the decking much harder. You have to get lucky with how early Rainbow gets her Hourglasses out.
Post by: deluxeloy on January 23, 2011, 10:06:58 am
Try to hold on long enough for a Forest Spectre to get big and then Antimatter/Liquid Shadow it.failed using the first deck. sorry.Code: [Select]4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uu 5uu 5uu 5uu 5uu 5uuCode: [Select]55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55p 55p 55p 55p 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 592 592 592 592 592 594 594 595 595 5f0 5f0 5f6 5fa 5fa 621 621
it could've been my fault, I'm a tactical moron when it comes to antimatter.
Post by: majofa on January 24, 2011, 02:46:15 am
failed using the first deck. sorry.No, it's not your fault... Rainbow is just hard, plain and simple.. :/
it could've been my fault, I'm a tactical moron when it comes to antimatter.
Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on January 24, 2011, 03:00:25 am
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it is good
Post by: Stickmasterluke on February 25, 2011, 12:23:49 am
Post by: Essence on March 07, 2011, 01:07:18 am
Post by: TheIdioticIdiot on March 07, 2011, 01:09:16 am
and in my tests, it rapes rainbow (if played correctly)
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Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on March 07, 2011, 01:14:35 am
I just made a completely unupped FG farmer: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22480.0.html
and in my tests, it rapes rainbow (if played correctly)Code: [Select]5v2 5v2 5v2 5v2 5v2 5v2 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a
Post by: TheIdioticIdiot on March 07, 2011, 01:27:52 am
in rainbow's case, yeah, u would save them all until the end
Post by: Falcon4415 on March 20, 2011, 11:46:29 pm
Post by: majofa on March 21, 2011, 05:26:58 am
Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on March 22, 2011, 01:40:00 am
I only tried it once, so it might have been luck... I modifed the deck in the first post into a trio, and while this deck may not be able outdamage him (though it could with the fast eating Otyugh), with constant 36 healing with Black Holes you can easily deck him out
Post by: willng3 on April 01, 2011, 07:53:14 pm
Erm I think I have a good deck against himTried this. Lost because I didn't draw a Quint to play any of my creatures (an Oty and an Amber Nymph). Drew one Black Hole to let me live a bit longer, but there wasn't much I could do.
I only tried it once, so it might have been luck... I modifed the deck in the first post into a trio, and while this deck may not be able outdamage him (though it could with the fast eating Otyugh), with constant 36 healing with Black Holes you can easily deck him out
Post by: BloodlinE on April 12, 2011, 08:31:47 am
i think it have some good percentage to win.
Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on April 27, 2011, 12:46:52 pm
just use jmdt's the fastest speed bow eva! deck.Lawl, Rainbow didn't know what hit him :D. 6 turn win and nothing except a quantum tower played in the first turn :P
i think it have some good percentage to win.
Post by: BloodlinE on May 04, 2011, 04:58:19 am
lol. its a good deck though.just use jmdt's the fastest speed bow eva! deck.Lawl, Rainbow didn't know what hit him :D. 6 turn win and nothing except a quantum tower played in the first turn :P
i think it have some good percentage to win.
i did a 8 turn win.
Post by: Higurashi on May 09, 2011, 08:15:42 am
Please update OP accordingly. For Rainbow though, it might be better taking two Pandes instead of Dusk Mantles. Drain Lifes are also an option. I used the latter against Obliterator once, since Dusk Mantle is pretty useless against him. It helped.
Deck image so you don't have to:
Post by: Camoninja on May 28, 2011, 06:14:51 pm
It always manages to get outrushed, in the couple of tries I had with it. The basilisk bloods are for the shriekers, and you want to protect the shield before anything else.
Post by: Xenocidius on June 05, 2011, 10:16:00 am
Also, what's the best upped deck?
Post by: Higurashi on June 05, 2011, 10:37:54 am
The best deck overall is generally accepted to be either Shak'ars or a durable fast rush, like this: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11757.0.html
I've rushed her three times with that speedbow, and others will attest to its success.
Post by: Xenocidius on June 06, 2011, 04:17:17 am
The best deck overall is generally accepted to be either Shak'ars or a durable fast rush, like this: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11757.0.htmlAh ... the deck which, by a fabulous coincidence, I was already building up. There's some good news :)
I've rushed her three times with that speedbow, and others will attest to its success.
It may be worth putting it in the OP ..?
Post by: chum3 on June 11, 2011, 01:39:27 pm
The best deck overall is generally accepted to be either Shak'ars or a durable fast rush, like this: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11757.0.htmlRecently outrushed Rainbow with said rainbow deck.
I've rushed her three times with that speedbow, and others will attest to its success.
Post by: the dictator on June 14, 2011, 04:00:14 pm
*facepalm*
Rainbow can be easily beaten if you know he's coming. Go gravity+earth, use otyugh to control and heavy armor to get him big enough, and use black holes and earthquakes to put rainbow in it's place.
Sadly, I lost, but this deck has potential.
(http://oi56.tinypic.com/2jc7q0z.jpg)
I lost because his hand god flooding with cards he couldn't play, after I got a third turn EA-gravity shield and managed to protect my pendulums the turn after, turning all his CC AND PC into death cards, which resulted in seeing a few games where he was simply unable to use his hourglasses, because he had to clear his hand (by discarding).
As you can see I came close to losing on hp's too, because his owl's eye decided to show up on the third turn, and kept hitting me from there on. I think the deck will work out fine (especially fully upped) with one of two pulverizers to take his owl's eyes out, and a few stone skins for more healing.
Note, if you don't have upped BB, use 4 armors and 4 BB, instead of 2/6. The BB is nice when you are facing a shrieker before you have a gravity shield up, but can be expensive in the beginning (because you want to get the quanta for EA as fast as possible).
Play style:
Get a EA gravity shield as soon as possible
Use armors and BB on his shriekers
Use black hole for healing, try to maximize the healing
So don't heal when you have only 70 quanta left or when rainbow has little quanta, the extra hp's are more valuable than the extra turn(s) you get by using an early black hole, because: 8x shrieker = 96 damage, 8x spirit = 48 damage, 8x lycan = 8 damage, 4x thunderstorm = 20 damage, totalling at least 172 damage. You start with 100 damage, and you black holes can do 216 damage too, but with an early owl's eye and few hits before you can get your shield up that will be just enough (you can take 20 hits by on owl's eye, but that is without counting any hits by shriekers/spirits/lycans before you get your shield up.
Post by: stylish777 on June 20, 2011, 08:48:17 am
I got rainbow today, and as my AM/LS seem to dislike me (I always fail to draw enough antimatters or liquid shadows in time), I decided to try something else and based on glitch comment I build the following deck:Added some pulverizers to this deck to destroy the owls eyes and found out a few things:
Sadly, I lost, but this deck has potential.
(http://oi56.tinypic.com/2jc7q0z.jpg)
I lost because his hand god flooding with cards he couldn't play, after I got a third turn EA-gravity shield and managed to protect my pendulums the turn after, turning all his CC AND PC into death cards, which resulted in seeing a few games where he was simply unable to use his hourglasses, because he had to clear his hand (by discarding).
As you can see I came close to losing on hp's too, because his owl's eye decided to show up on the third turn, and kept hitting me from there on. I think the deck will work out fine (especially fully upped) with one of two pulverizers to take his owl's eyes out, and a few stone skins for more healing.
Note, if you don't have upped BB, use 4 armors and 4 BB, instead of 2/6. The BB is nice when you are facing a shrieker before you have a gravity shield up, but can be expensive in the beginning (because you want to get the quanta for EA as fast as possible).
Play style:
Get a EA gravity shield as soon as possible
Use armors and BB on his shriekers
Use black hole for healing, try to maximize the healing
So don't heal when you have only 70 quanta left or when rainbow has little quanta, the extra hp's are more valuable than the extra turn(s) you get by using an early black hole, because: 8x shrieker = 96 damage, 8x spirit = 48 damage, 8x lycan = 8 damage, 4x thunderstorm = 20 damage, totalling at least 172 damage. You start with 100 damage, and you black holes can do 216 damage too, but with an early owl's eye and few hits before you can get your shield up that will be just enough (you can take 20 hits by on owl's eye, but that is without counting any hits by shriekers/spirits/lycans before you get your shield up.
1. This deck is can deck out Rainbow. Provided you do NOT protect the pendulums (you need them as bait for explosions and steals to clear out Rainbows hand so he can keep drawing.)
2. Using basilisk/ehh.. the other +hp thingy on anything else than shriekers will eventually kill you. (Silly me :p)
3. Decking out Rainbow is NOT worth the time and effort! EVER! If you try, you will be amazed about the time it takes to wait for Rainbows last 15 turns..
4. Im out of coffee and out of ideas for rainbow and will add a note to my FG specific decks to not waste any more time on this FG. All generic FG decks can with some luck beat this FG.
Post by: tegorter on June 20, 2011, 09:21:41 am
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Works like a charm every time!
Post by: burne on June 30, 2011, 10:20:36 am
There is no deck that can take Rainbow down 95% of the time. :(Not 95% but not far away too. and with EM please.
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Post by: Camoninja on June 30, 2011, 12:58:27 pm
Where's the liquid shadow for the spirits, for a one turn kill?
And why do you have purifies? Like immaterial SoGs?
Other than that it looks like a deckout deck because of Rainbow's hourglasses.
Post by: burne on June 30, 2011, 01:09:02 pm
Ha, funny.That deck is all about deck out.
Where's the liquid shadow for the spirits, for a one turn kill?
And why do you have purifies? Like immaterial SoGs?
Other than that it looks like a deckout deck because of Rainbow's hourglasses.
And purifies works well as cheap unremoveable heal.
You may fit a way to kill rainbow but decking it out is the way to get easy EM cause your shards will tell the last word.
Post by: Bonestorm on July 06, 2011, 12:46:54 am
Post by: burne on July 06, 2011, 07:37:55 am
You only need it in case of an early rush, so you may add several of them in order to have one early.
36hp heal will only save you for barely one turn. Sundials could be a better choice here.
And futhermore, it takes your precious gravity quanta that you need for your shield as you'll run short of them in the begining.
The biggest problem is not to deck out yourself in case rainbow got his hand full of cards it can't use.
Post by: hainkarga on July 10, 2011, 03:49:28 pm
The best deck overall is generally accepted to be either Shak'ars or a durable fast rush, like this: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11757.0.htmlFor the record, i just outrushed rainbow with the said deck. Oracle gave me chrysaora.
I've rushed her three times with that speedbow, and others will attest to its success.
(http://s1.postimage.org/d6nq6o5gz/rainbow.jpg)
Post by: Higurashi on July 10, 2011, 03:51:25 pm
I've beaten him five oracle predictions in a row now with this deck:In addition to Shak'ars and Speedbows, I can also attest to the success of RoL/Hope without perms. Reason being I've gone 5-0 with my Perpetual Light, full speed version, and that uses 3 Electros that are basically dead cards.Code: [Select]5lk 5lk 5lk 5lk 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7ju 7ju 7ju 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 80i 80i 80i 80i 80i 80i
Basically RoL-hope stripped of anything he'll just steal or destroy, geared to speed and empty hands for fractalling. The extra towers and fractal make sure you can soak up all his PC and CC.
Works like a charm every time!
Post by: Xenocidius on July 28, 2011, 07:19:52 am
If you want to use a speedbow, I'd recommend this. Da Fastest Speedbow Eva with Unstable Gas replaced by Elite Wyrm.
As for Shak'ars, standard version works quite well.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on August 15, 2011, 07:31:54 am
(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9155/rainbowwithrol.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/696/rainbowwithrol.jpg/)
Only difference between the RoL deck posted above was pendulums instead of towers (didn't have 11 upped towers, but did have 4 pends) and 1 light dragon for 1 archangel. (since I only had 2 archangel) Pet was schrodinger's cat, who despite a turn 1 gravity pull, managed about 4-5 damage before dying due to rainbow's crap start.
Post by: Xenocidius on August 15, 2011, 07:38:11 am
Rainbow had a bit of a slow start (though so did I, with 0 RoLs until about turn 5-6) and by timing the fractal correctly, I managed to beat it.Rainbow always has a slow start ::)
Post by: Higurashi on August 24, 2011, 06:28:24 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/fTWQQ.jpg)
Post by: furballdn on October 24, 2011, 12:25:47 am
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Post by: crazyphysicist on January 18, 2012, 03:00:28 pm
Just won him by the following deck:
Should add 1-2 grav nymphs for more stable outcome, and upgrade all the cards.
And yes, no shields.
One should be having guaranteed 36hp heal each turn after quinted nymph is played, and more black holes for emergency healing and Miracle prevention. Quinted, overdrived dragons will finish him off. Armagio can be overdrived or grav pulled, depending on situation.
CC will stuck his deck.
But grav nymphs are so rare... :(
Post by: UnderneathTheLens on January 21, 2012, 03:24:50 pm
I would say black holes work wonders against rainbow.Tried it... but got bad draw with no quints.
Just won him by the following deck:
Should add 1-2 grav nymphs for more stable outcome, and upgrade all the cards.
And yes, no shields.
One should be having guaranteed 36hp heal each turn after quinted nymph is played, and more black holes for emergency healing and Miracle prevention. Quinted, overdrived dragons will finish him off. Armagio can be overdrived or grav pulled, depending on situation.
CC will stuck his deck.
But grav nymphs are so rare... :(
Post by: Barragor on February 11, 2012, 10:27:18 am
Post by: AnimationX on February 20, 2012, 01:17:49 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on February 20, 2012, 01:46:22 am
Post by: AnimationX on February 20, 2012, 04:15:50 am
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I'm liking the looks of that gravity deck with quints, but I've only got one amber nymph. For those few lucky enough to have 3-4 of them, I'll bet something similar to this would work very well. If you could get a quinted nymph out on turn 3-4 or so, you'd have the game in the bag. (although that's true against a lot of decks :p) Running out of cards might be a problem, though rainbow does have double draw and a lot of hourglasses, so maybe you could win by decking him if you didn't get any damage out early.I tried something like this before-I had a rainbow with a purple nymph and a gravity nymph, with several black holes and healing. I was able to completely heal off all damage done to me, but I decked out due to rainbow having all his control cards clog up his hand, forcing him to draw 1 card per turn and not use hourglasses :x. Maybe add in a FFQ to supply stuff he can control?
Post by: Sevs on February 29, 2012, 08:14:49 am
This worked beautifully, At first i was worried but as i drew more towers it cleared up rainbows hand very nicely, The only issue was playing a gravity shield instead of discarding it on he last turn....There is no deck that can take Rainbow down 95% of the time. :(Not 95% but not far away too. and with EM please.Code: [Select]6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u7 6u7 6u7 6u7 6u7 6u7 749 749 749 749 749 749 77i 77i 77i 77i 77i 77i 77l 77l 77l 77l 7gq 7gq 7gq 7gq 7gq
BB and antimatter are only for shrieker. You can leave you tower unprottected, it'll make it draw its steal and explosion.
Post by: Higurashi on March 01, 2012, 11:29:14 am
Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on March 07, 2012, 09:59:04 pm
Post by: Moraku on March 30, 2012, 02:52:48 pm
Worked well for me today. I have to admit, I had a pretty lucky hand. If I hadn't drawn a Gravity Shield in my first hand, I would have been screwed as my second Shield came way way down the line. (Also, added the Entropy mark to the deck for easier copy/paste action!)There is no deck that can take Rainbow down 95% of the time. :(Not 95% but not far away too. and with EM please.
BB and antimatter are only for shrieker. You can leave you tower unprotected, it'll make it draw its steal and explosion.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on April 13, 2012, 01:22:04 pm
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/2533/rainbowgoessplat.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/rainbowgoessplat.jpg/)
My board looks decidedly unimpressive, but it's the life totals that count. I saw only 2 miracles, so it might've been a fluke, though.
Post by: Retribution on May 04, 2012, 03:49:29 am
Post by: majofa on May 07, 2012, 01:53:51 pm
Post by: Retribution on May 11, 2012, 02:20:35 am
I highly doubt a player rainbow can beat the FG rainbow herself...
Post by: Avenger on May 20, 2012, 08:59:12 am
Post by: furballdn on May 20, 2012, 05:16:57 pm
Post by: furballdn on June 15, 2012, 07:51:54 pm
That deck works great as well. Rainbow's hand often gets clogged though.Worked well for me today. I have to admit, I had a pretty lucky hand. If I hadn't drawn a Gravity Shield in my first hand, I would have been screwed as my second Shield came way way down the line. (Also, added the Entropy mark to the deck for easier copy/paste action!)There is no deck that can take Rainbow down 95% of the time. :(Not 95% but not far away too. and with EM please.
BB and antimatter are only for shrieker. You can leave you tower unprotected, it'll make it draw its steal and explosion.
Post by: eaglgenes101 on June 17, 2012, 09:05:15 pm
*Walks around, thinking of a replacement*
Post by: eaglgenes101 on June 19, 2012, 02:26:18 am
Post by: dragonsdemesne on June 19, 2012, 02:32:51 am
Post by: furballdn on June 19, 2012, 03:09:59 am
Post by: eaglgenes101 on June 19, 2012, 04:26:02 am
I'd say the best counter against Rainbow would have to be Gravy shield+PA with some healing, such as antimatter or sancts/SoGs. It could be done unupped, and all you have to do would be to outstall him while he draws himself to death. Something like this upped deck, only unupped.
Made this:
It's obviously prone to bad draws, but if you get a grav shield out, it gets much easier to win.
Post by: The Chosen One on August 22, 2012, 09:00:54 am
all up will be better ;D
miracle and black hole have to be used only at the end of the match,when FG have 0 cards, in this way you can do EM easily
Post by: Vernonro on August 27, 2012, 11:22:21 am
*facepalm*
Rainbow can be easily beaten if you know he's coming. Go gravity+earth, use otyugh to control and heavy armor to get him big enough, and use black holes and earthquakes to put rainbow in it's place.
I think you forgot he has
Post by: umgrego2 on September 12, 2012, 02:31:20 pm
I'd say the best counter against Rainbow would have to be Gravy shield+PA with some healing, such as antimatter or sancts/SoGs. It could be done unupped, and all you have to do would be to outstall him while he draws himself to death. Something like this upped deck, only unupped.
Used this (in its upped form) and it worked, but it was touch and go there for two reasons. One is that I was super low on health early in the game (<15). The other is that his hand starts to clutter. On the latter, make sure you don't PA your towers so that he has something to steal/explode and use an antimatter or two on a huge spectre (or two). Although you won't get the healing (grav shield blocks it) rainbow will have something to congeal/gravity force.
Thanks, furball
Post by: Pwnator on September 24, 2012, 07:17:45 am
(http://puu.sh/188Cj)
Heck, Rainbow barely had any quanta for an Eagle's Eye, let alone a Miracle.
This was also probably my fastest win against any FG. Ever.
[Edit] The following day, I got Rainbow again:
(http://puu.sh/18teh)
Post by: Trylor on October 08, 2012, 10:29:47 am
There is no deck that can take Rainbow down 95% of the time. :(Not 95% but not far away too. and with EM please.Code: [Select]6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u7 6u7 6u7 6u7 6u7 6u7 749 749 749 749 749 749 77i 77i 77i 77i 77i 77i 77l 77l 77l 77l 7gq 7gq 7gq 7gq 7gq
BB and antimatter are only for shrieker. You can leave you tower unprottected, it'll make it draw its steal and explosion.
When i first tested it i had problems with health falling dangerously low.
So i switched to Mark of Life, -5QT -2AM +5AT +1SoG +2BB +1Heal
Deck:
How to play:
- Win by deckout
- Never protect a tower, Rainbow has no Quanta control so let him clear out his hand by wasting PC on towers (14 PC cards vs 10 towers)
- Never use your CC on Werewolfs or Spectres, GS will take care of them after a couple of turns
- Rainbow has 8 Graboids, You have 10 CC cards for them. Prioritize using AM if you will have enough quanta for a SN next turn, Rainbow will waste his GF, Congeal and TB on antimattered Shriekers. One SoG counters a burrowed Shrieker, two SoGs counters the EE. Your goal is to CC as many Shriekers as possible, if Rainbow gets to burrow more than 3 you risk losing the EM or even the match
- Your goals early is to get a protected shield, then a protected SoG out
- Use purify on yourself for added healing, the Heal can be used for a clutch save early, or if Rainbow gets a lot of Spectres out in the last turns, to get the EM
- Never protect a tower, Rainbow has no Quanta control so let him clear out his hand by wasting PC on towers (14 PC cards vs 10 towers)
- Never use your CC on Werewolfs or Spectres, GS will take care of them after a couple of turns
- Rainbow has 8 Graboids, You have 10 CC cards for them. Prioritize using AM if you will have enough quanta for a SN next turn, Rainbow will waste his GF, Congeal and TB on antimattered Shriekers. One SoG counters a burrowed Shrieker, two SoGs counters the EE. Your goal is to CC as many Shriekers as possible, if Rainbow gets to burrow more than 3 you risk losing the EM or even the match
- Your goals early is to get a protected shield, then a protected SoG out
- Use purify on yourself for added healing, the Heal can be used for a clutch save early, or if Rainbow gets a lot of Spectres out in the last turns, to get the EM
So far iv'e won 3/4 matches the last 2 months. The one loss i didn't get a single PA in ~15 turns. This is the main problem with the deck: at 50 cards it's inconsistent.
Post by: furballdn on October 26, 2012, 04:33:31 am
Replace dragons with momentum for best results
Post by: ddevans96 on November 09, 2012, 10:49:32 pm
Post by: Jonny on February 20, 2013, 10:57:18 pm
The upped fractals and the towers seem very important to make this deck work. The half-upped variant simply lacks the quanta.
Post by: Cielo on March 09, 2013, 02:30:10 pm
Slight modification of Burnes' deck:There is no deck that can take Rainbow down 95% of the time. :(Not 95% but not far away too. and with EM please.Code: [Select]6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u7 6u7 6u7 6u7 6u7 6u7 749 749 749 749 749 749 77i 77i 77i 77i 77i 77i 77l 77l 77l 77l 7gq 7gq 7gq 7gq 7gq
BB and antimatter are only for shrieker. You can leave you tower unprottected, it'll make it draw its steal and explosion.
When i first tested it i had problems with health falling dangerously low.
So i switched to Mark of Life, -5QT -2AM +5AT +1SoG +2BB +1Heal
Deck:
How to play:- Win by deckout
- Never protect a tower, Rainbow has no Quanta control so let him clear out his hand by wasting PC on towers (14 PC cards vs 10 towers)
- Never use your CC on Werewolfs or Spectres, GS will take care of them after a couple of turns
- Rainbow has 8 Graboids, You have 10 CC cards for them. Prioritize using AM if you will have enough quanta for a SN next turn, Rainbow will waste his GF, Congeal and TB on antimattered Shriekers. One SoG counters a burrowed Shrieker, two SoGs counters the EE. Your goal is to CC as many Shriekers as possible, if Rainbow gets to burrow more than 3 you risk losing the EM or even the match
- Your goals early is to get a protected shield, then a protected SoG out
- Use purify on yourself for added healing, the Heal can be used for a clutch save early, or if Rainbow gets a lot of Spectres out in the last turns, to get the EM
So far iv'e won 3/4 matches the last 2 months. The one loss i didn't get a single PA in ~15 turns. This is the main problem with the deck: at 50 cards it's inconsistent.
Won with this deck once.
But just now lost quickly, coz one of the only two pillars I drew was destroyed while the other was stolen and I never drew a third.
Post by: Anthraxx on March 20, 2013, 07:51:53 am
Awesomesauce.
Post by: Laxadarap on March 25, 2013, 04:04:23 pm
Post by: Hisar on April 04, 2013, 02:44:43 pm
Has rares, but does very well if you can get a decent size otyugh
Post by: skyironsword on April 16, 2013, 08:24:45 pm
Partially upped RoL Hope won against rainbow.
Deck Code: 5la 5la 5lk 5lk 5lk 5lk 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61u 622 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 8pu
(If you must know, it's basically the first post deck unupped except for the RoLs. And with a single lobotomizer for the lulz.)
Post by: ColorlessGreen on April 16, 2013, 08:43:53 pm
Too lazy to post a picture, look it up yourself
Partially upped RoL Hope won against rainbow.
Deck Code: 5la 5la 5lk 5lk 5lk 5lk 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61u 622 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 8pu
(If you must know, it's basically the first post deck unupped except for the RoLs. And with a single lobotomizer for the lulz.)
For future laziness, it's actually less work to click the deck button (and almost exactly the same amount of work to put [.deck][./deck] (without periods)) around your deck code than it is to type "Deck Code: ".
Post by: Jonny on April 17, 2013, 08:08:49 pm
Thank god, it finally worked.
(http://i.snag.gy/KNWjc.jpg)
Post by: Narukta on April 18, 2013, 02:09:15 pm
Post by: Calindu on April 18, 2013, 02:13:58 pm
How did you got that Fire Eater? ?_?
Oracle pet.
Post by: rob77dp on May 15, 2013, 02:28:29 pm
Been using this as my Rainbow counter after I got a win, and realized from old snova thread that it was possible to beat rainbow. Currently 4 wins out of 4 games against him.
I used this with 4 un-upped Seraphs in place of the 4 upgraded Seraphs I do not have.
Hmmmmm, I'm not sure this deck is playable "wrong" - I used it attempting to outrush Rainbow today. Result: 4-turn loss (got spanked).
Please tell me this was just Rainbow getting some sort of ridiculous sweet draw??
(http://i.imgur.com/pwA2VzP.png)
Post by: Higurashi on May 15, 2013, 05:00:08 pm
Post by: Selinea on May 20, 2013, 07:45:53 am
I think a lobo would have worked wonders because the forest spirits grew so out of control that my 10 RoLs couldn't handle it. Then again, with my luck, I probably would have just bottom decked the lobos too.
Post by: Higurashi on May 20, 2013, 08:10:44 am
Post by: Selinea on May 20, 2013, 08:47:07 am
And I had a ridiculous amount of excess quanta, but that's probably because I bottom decked four fractals. Derp.
Post by: Higurashi on May 20, 2013, 05:49:21 pm
Good to have you back, by the way! :>
Post by: trashduke on June 03, 2013, 03:33:08 am
Damage came quick, but I managed to stay above 40 HP. Thanks for the congeal, Rainbow.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on July 19, 2013, 12:16:13 am
(http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/1358/a4jw.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/a4jw.jpg/)
Post by: BeforeMemory on August 05, 2013, 01:49:20 am
Won a Forest Spectre
Deck
Win
(http://imgur.com/iYmf3hU.jpg)
Post by: OdinVanguard on August 28, 2013, 06:36:43 pm
Got pounded pretty bad, but could be due to a bad draw. Looks good on paper, but he kept oppressing my quanta by shredding and stealing pillars.
With all pillars upped to towers, I might have still pulled it off though.
This deck seems like the best bet for those with limited upgrade and rares though.
Post by: Higurashi on August 30, 2013, 11:15:11 am
All in all, there's a reason the counter deck has so much quanta and 6 Fractals. It's a good deal more consistent than SoP usage because most losses come from quanta deprivation, not Ray deaths, and SoP usage adds big weaknesses.
Post by: Rutarete on September 20, 2013, 04:09:54 pm
It's a nice try against rainbow, but what killed me was his Eagle's Eye. This deck has no way past that.
Post by: ColorlessGreen on September 20, 2013, 04:13:21 pm
It's a nice try against rainbow, but what killed me was his Eagle's Eye. This deck has no way past that.
If you can last long enough to get the quanta for it, maybe a miracle? If not, maybe replace a couple bolts with SoDs? Assuming you mean the damage from eagle eye was fatal, I'd think there's some way to squeeze in some healing to outlast it.
Post by: BattleCattle on October 08, 2013, 03:13:12 am
(http://i.imgur.com/u4P15Gv.jpg)
Post by: Submachine on October 30, 2013, 09:33:12 am
This deck is my Osiris counter too aswell. But here comes Rainbow:
(http://i.imgur.com/lEiRfIt.png)
Post by: Liandri on November 04, 2013, 01:07:40 pm
What worked for me today even with a bad draw:
This deck is my Osiris counter too aswell. But here comes Rainbow:(http://i.imgur.com/lEiRfIt.png)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/nlbus3.jpg)
Yea, this deck works. not exactly newbie friendly cuz of all the shards, but it does work.
Post by: dawn to dusk on November 13, 2013, 09:07:30 am
amazingly, i survived 18 turns!
i got no where near close to winning but its something to build from at least
Post by: GiantFrog on November 15, 2013, 08:05:30 pm
Edit: Thinking and looking at it after win would probably work better with switched pends and mark, not really sure though, assumption is that it would get dune scorpions out one turn faster if it were fully upped and had an ok hand to start. But either case it works and has some pretty extreme potential, you could use dragons instead of chargers, only reason I use chargers is the momentum to ignore an early turtle shield
Post by: yee on November 19, 2013, 02:22:27 pm
I won using this didnt take long and I managed over 50hp the whole game, did not take to long either, maybe I got lucky but getting 35-40 hp a turn is awesome with black hole, spark pet opI tryed this
Edit: Thinking and looking at it after win would probably work better with switched pends and mark, not really sure though, assumption is that it would get dune scorpions out one turn faster if it were fully upped and had an ok hand to start. But either case it works and has some pretty extreme potential, you could use dragons instead of chargers, only reason I use chargers is the momentum to ignore an early turtle shield
I didn't get scorpion out before turn 5, so I only managed to bring him down to 84 Hp.
Post by: dragonsdemesne on November 19, 2013, 03:14:38 pm
Post by: Orichalcum on December 02, 2013, 08:01:44 am
(& it will probably never happen again XD)
(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/818/ccwd.png)
Post by: trashduke on December 23, 2013, 08:34:00 pm
I won using this didnt take long and I managed over 50hp the whole game, did not take to long either, maybe I got lucky but getting 35-40 hp a turn is awesome with black hole, spark pet opI tryed this
Edit: Thinking and looking at it after win would probably work better with switched pends and mark, not really sure though, assumption is that it would get dune scorpions out one turn faster if it were fully upped and had an ok hand to start. But either case it works and has some pretty extreme potential, you could use dragons instead of chargers, only reason I use chargers is the momentum to ignore an early turtle shield
I didn't get scorpion out before turn 5, so I only managed to bring him down to 84 Hp.
Hmmm… This one didn't work out of me… the damage built up too slowly (and Rainbow got some big Forest Spectres going quickly). Maybe add a gravity shield, but she could steal it…. You'd need a pretty good draw (and she'd need a crappy one) to last this one out enough turns for the neurotoxin to work.
Post by: icecoldbro on January 05, 2014, 05:18:05 pm
Worked out alright, won, but not by that much, It seems a lil gravity quanta starved, especially if she steals your pends. Save the rewinds for grown spectres Im thinking sundials would be great in this deck, just thinking as she will continously poison herself to death without attacking. (Even if she steals, explosions might be a problem but dials would be a good decoy for the gravvy shields.)
Post by: R15t on January 26, 2014, 12:55:45 pm
What worked for me today even with a bad draw:
This deck is my Osiris counter too aswell. But here comes Rainbow:(http://i.imgur.com/lEiRfIt.png)(http://i42.tinypic.com/nlbus3.jpg)
Yea, this deck works. not exactly newbie friendly cuz of all the shards, but it does work.
@Liandri thanks for that deck :D I didnt have the scorpions and momentum upped, but still got EM in 18 turns:
(http://i.imgur.com/ycAO34q.png?1)
Post by: trashduke on January 30, 2014, 05:18:24 pm
What worked for me today even with a bad draw:
This deck is my Osiris counter too aswell. But here comes Rainbow:(http://i.imgur.com/lEiRfIt.png)
This is a great deck to take on Rainbow. Bravo and + rep.
Post by: Jonny on February 23, 2014, 12:17:07 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/VkYgWLc.png)
Post by: gumbeh on February 27, 2014, 06:02:50 pm
Think I'll try that
Post by: Submachine on March 15, 2014, 12:20:53 pm
(http://imgur.com/Yw0jenw.jpg)
EDIT:
Beating Rainbow even with this deck, also needs luck. I would have been beaten today, because I didn't draw my Silence in time, but I got really lucky because Rainbow didn't have a second Improved Miracle (he used 1 already earlier). If he used a Miracle, I would have lost by deckout.
(http://imgur.com/oGLDFuo.jpg)
Post by: ooli on August 02, 2014, 11:37:04 am
I've been using a modified swallow to crush rainbow:
Has rares, but does very well if you can get a decent size otyugh
I'm up to 9 win 1 loss with this deck. Thanks
Post by: Rutarete on August 15, 2014, 08:03:37 pm
I've been using a modified swallow to crush rainbow:I won with this, but I was down to no deck left. Maybe it was just luck of the draw, but for every SoP I put down it was deflag'd nearly right away
Has rares, but does very well if you can get a decent size otyugh
Post by: SevenOfAKind on October 14, 2015, 08:30:36 am
To deal with Miracles, I changed the lonely SoW to a Silence and I'm currently 3-1 with the Silence version against Rainbow.(http://imgur.com/Yw0jenw.jpg)
EDIT:
Beating Rainbow even with this deck, also needs luck. I would have been beaten today, because I didn't draw my Silence in time, but I got really lucky because Rainbow didn't have a second Improved Miracle (he used 1 already earlier). If he used a Miracle, I would have lost by deckout.(http://imgur.com/oGLDFuo.jpg)
This deck worked perfectly for me, got a little close on SoSa draws at end but even with a slow momentum/scorp combo I had no real trouble.
Edit: Now 3-1 with this deck too, cuts it a little close but seems fairly solid.
Edit2: 7-1 with this deck long run I think, only loss was caused by drawing into scorpion/momentum combo way too late. Cuts it close a lot but almost always seems to pull it out.
Post by: kaempfer13 on November 15, 2015, 11:58:03 am
Edit: Obviously, at the cost of not getting EMs you can switch Nymphs for dragons and win faster with less megarare cards.
Post by: tereret on February 13, 2016, 08:08:16 am
What about graviton slavagers?I've been using a modified swallow to crush rainbow:I won with this, but I was down to no deck left. Maybe it was just luck of the draw, but for every SoP I put down it was deflag'd nearly right away
Has rares, but does very well if you can get a decent size otyugh
Post by: Spielkind on June 15, 2017, 09:26:47 am
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Worked for me 3 times now(3:0), guess its good to add in OP?! 8-)
Post by: DoctorC on June 15, 2017, 06:00:59 pm
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Don't get me wrong, I'm really not the person to talk about deckbuilding, but supernovae are kinda slow to draw in early game, making you wait whole two turns just to gather enough quanta to even play the thing. Sure, everything comes into play after aforementioned supernovae, but the point still stands - it's kinda frustrating at early stages of game when you have to discard some of the cards. You'd be lucky if you happen to have a SoB or two Momentums or something to discard, but on occasion you'd simply have to sacrifice something vital, like SoSac or a Dune Scorpion.
Sure, there's a chance of that time tower falling into your hands, but the actual chance of that happening is 26,(6)%, which might seem like a good idea, but it's still kinda small. Not to mention that you'd have to wait till you have your Supernovae out if you were unlucky enough to not have them initially.
All in all, the deck is good, but I feel like discarding something vital at the beginning of the game is an important issue of this counter.
Post by: worldwideweb3 on June 15, 2017, 06:22:23 pm
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Worked for me 3 times now(3:0), guess its good to add in OP?! 8-)
Never worked for me ): Teach me how to play the deck properly senpai
Post by: Spielkind on July 12, 2017, 12:39:22 pm
Post by: Submachine on July 12, 2017, 02:24:42 pm
I remember going 6-1 with said deck (which is pretty good), but then I fell back to 6-5 in the upcoming four games (which is pretty bad).
My current statistics: "7-6, 1/7 EM - one loss was because of a bottom-decked Silence".