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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg66454#msg66454
« Reply #180 on: May 10, 2010, 06:40:43 pm »
Incarnate does have parasites and retrovirus, however like I mentioned, I only included instant Creature control because when you play the FG, its on the table already, so you know it =)
Thats not fair cos Scorpio has his Ulitharids included   :-X
Clearly a mistake that needs to be removed!!

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg70234#msg70234
« Reply #181 on: May 17, 2010, 09:03:43 pm »
The biggest problem with this deck is staying power in a drawn-out fight.  Assuming none of your towers got nailed, you have 24 quanta production per turn divided over 12 colors.  That comes to an average of 2 time quanta per turn, and to rewind yourself indefinitely you need 3 per turn.  If a game is looking like it's going to drag out, you need to start stockpiling time quanta at about the time when you have 10 cards left in order to have any staying power for the rest of the game.

A single additional time tower would rectify this, I think without too much undue slowing of the deck, as it would allow more liberal use of the hourglasses.

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg70235#msg70235
« Reply #182 on: May 17, 2010, 09:06:40 pm »
The biggest problem with this deck is staying power in a drawn-out fight.  Assuming none of your towers got nailed, you have 24 quanta production per turn divided over 12 colors.  That comes to an average of 2 time quanta per turn, and to rewind yourself indefinitely you need 3 per turn.  If a game is looking like it's going to drag out, you need to start stockpiling time quanta at about the time when you have 10 cards left in order to have any staying power for the rest of the game.

A single additional time tower would rectify this, I think without too much undue slowing of the deck, as it would allow more liberal use of the hourglasses.
Alot of people actually said that about the +1 time tower.

After farming 200k now with this deck, i never had run out of time quanta, you just have to know when to stop drawing

But try it with +1 tower and see what you think =)

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg70238#msg70238
« Reply #183 on: May 17, 2010, 09:08:35 pm »
Like I said, when I hit 10 cards left, I stop using time quanta, and that seems to leave a large enough reserve to prevent deckout in most cases.

What you can't do is keep fighting forever, however.

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg70300#msg70300
« Reply #184 on: May 17, 2010, 11:37:33 pm »
Like I said, when I hit 10 cards left, I stop using time quanta, and that seems to leave a large enough reserve to prevent deckout in most cases.

What you can't do is keep fighting forever, however.
I usually hit 10-15

But why would you want to go on forever, you got to win it, not deck it out, against most FG hehe XDDD

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg72726#msg72726
« Reply #185 on: May 22, 2010, 12:36:51 am »
=] I just wanted to say thanks for the idea about the butterfly angel! XD I'm using butterfly pest, which isn't nearly as cool of a name but less quanta atleast. ^^"

:) I'm glad that you still respond to this thread as it is very amazing esp how you updated it :) ty!!

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg72858#msg72858
« Reply #186 on: May 22, 2010, 09:41:29 am »
=] I just wanted to say thanks for the idea about the butterfly angel! XD I'm using butterfly pest, which isn't nearly as cool of a name but less quanta atleast. ^^"

:) I'm glad that you still respond to this thread as it is very amazing esp how you updated it :) ty!!
I agree, and I love :light and hate :darkness personally
But I got to admit pest is better for this deck :)

Yea I check around forum once in a while, glad you like the way i arranged my thread.
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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg74332#msg74332
« Reply #187 on: May 25, 2010, 02:22:00 am »
I have few problems with this deck.
While this deck can beat harder FG such as Obliterator, Graviton, Hermes, and Seism (Rainbow included if he didn't miracled), I have problems to defeat FG that I considered easy with my timebow, such as Elidnis, Chaos Lord, Morte, and especially Gemini. (Ferox, Fire Queen, Paradox, Dreamcatcher, Destiny and Incarnate is still easy). I didn't count Osiris an Neptune as I haven't played much against them. Any help?

I added another SoG and Lava Destroyer, and also I changed into butterfly pest. What do you think?
And also is there any way to prevent FG to miracle?

Thanks for a very awesome deck  :D
I beat those hard FG for the first time.

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg74370#msg74370
« Reply #188 on: May 25, 2010, 05:11:05 am »
I have few problems with this deck.
While this deck can beat harder FG such as Obliterator, Graviton, Hermes, and Seism (Rainbow included if he didn't miracled), I have problems to defeat FG that I considered easy with my timebow, such as Elidnis, Chaos Lord, Morte, and especially Gemini. (Ferox, Fire Queen, Paradox, Dreamcatcher, Destiny and Incarnate is still easy). I didn't count Osiris an Neptune as I haven't played much against them. Any help?

I added another SoG and Lava Destroyer, and also I changed into butterfly pest. What do you think?
And also is there any way to prevent FG to miracle?

Thanks for a very awesome deck  :D
I beat those hard FG for the first time.

Thanks
Regardng to the miracle part, not really. But if you set up good, i still killed miracle after 4 miracles, so not big worry for me.

Glad you find a variation that suits you tho

Playing a compact rainbow such as this will mean sometimes you loose against the easier one, but then when you play alot more games, it not only evens out, but gives a better overall result. And being able to win the hard ones definitely make up alot more. Besides games are faster then a standard timebow (vastly tested)

Osiris can be difficult now since the boost, but still early permafort and a few sog will hurt him bad
Neptune is very easy, i won pretty much all the games against him. Try to set up early for a oty and a butterfly (quinted) and then you can stop drawing card at all. Then break his shield every turn and weapon and you will do great

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg75379#msg75379
« Reply #189 on: May 26, 2010, 08:45:31 pm »
I am LOVING this deck. I've used other Rainbow FG Killer decks but have always had trouble with the harder gods.. Well..



Here's to the rest of the harder gods being defeated!   ;D

Also I put in an extra firestorm and another PA, as well as took out the angel for the pest :) I kept finding out(the hard way) that i needed my shield protected too. Even if i don't, it increases the likelihood ill get PA faster for eternity, and it always seemed that one firestorm wasn't enough. Also helps bring down those high hp monsters into otyugh nom'ing range.
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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg75404#msg75404
« Reply #190 on: May 26, 2010, 09:20:04 pm »
My Seism screenshot is more fun
He quicksanded all my towers and i still managed to win him lol

Nice variation btw :)

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg76183#msg76183
« Reply #191 on: May 27, 2010, 10:14:23 pm »
Thanks, and yea it is, but i got a PA like 3 cards in.  Yay good luck once in a while ;D
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