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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg51296#msg51296
« Reply #108 on: April 10, 2010, 06:56:49 pm »
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Currently using the 3 oty variation of Yaladilae's Butterfly and really loving it.  My win percentage before with my unupped scarred girl was only about .30% but this deck has raised it up to 35% and that is with only one game to destiny which I lost dew to my own mistakes.

You can find my stats here http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=878628310 (http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=878628310)

I was about half way upgraded with my unupped scarred girl so it was really easy to convert to this just needed to buy 6 upped super novas.  I really like this deck and don't find it as volatile as the larger rainbows.

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg51300#msg51300
« Reply #109 on: April 10, 2010, 07:13:55 pm »
Currently using the 3 oty variation of Yaladilae's Butterfly and really loving it.  My win percentage before with my unupped scarred girl was only about .30% but this deck has raised it up to 35% and that is with only one game to destiny which I lost dew to my own mistakes.

You can find my stats here http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=878628310 (http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=878628310)

I was about half way upgraded with my unupped scarred girl so it was really easy to convert to this just needed to buy 6 upped super novas.  I really like this deck and don't find it as volatile as the larger rainbows.
Thanks for the picture and everything
(tho I feel a the picture little unecessary since you changed 1 card)

Like I said oty / pest is definitely better option
But i just personally like the Angel more 8)

Anyway,looking at your stats, you have quite alot of losts
I dont think you should have the FQ and ferox lost as I think those the easiest FG god to play against
I would suggest you take some time to watch some of my videos tutorials (hopfully they help)
Come back to me with any questions you have

On a side note, morte and incarnate you can stall in a different way. Permafrost + a field of his skeleton would make his hand totally useless

Regarding to 35%, since its an average of all the individual win rate, if you won that destiny game, it would definitely be better then 35% > same goes for eldinois and ferox. I have stats too, feel free to look as I will be keep adding to it myself too~

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg51401#msg51401
« Reply #110 on: April 10, 2010, 10:54:54 pm »
Looks like a REALLY good deck

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg51430#msg51430
« Reply #111 on: April 10, 2010, 11:59:12 pm »
On a side note, morte and incarnate you can stall in a different way. Permafrost + a field of his skeleton would make his hand totally useless
I also like this way of stopping these guys :P Eat bloodsuckers and vampires, don't worry about graveyards, eventually destroy his eclipses if you can, but it's not necessary. Permafrost reduces 23*4=92 damage to 23*2*47%=21,62 damage per turn on average... not counting those vampire stilettos you can destroy.
I even sometimes do it against Fire Queen too, though you have to be sure she is not going to firebolt you next turn.
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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg51451#msg51451
« Reply #112 on: April 11, 2010, 01:08:09 am »
So far I'm really liking this deck so thanks for sharing Yaladilae.   I can actually farm half-bloods with it and actually make a stab at false gods from time to time.   The main problem I'm having is time quanta.   I don't abuse the hourglasses really, but I just can't seem to deal out the damage before I deck out which means eternity use.     I can get a good 4 or 5 reverses to keep me alive , but the quantum towers just aren't enough to keep that 3 time quanta refilled every turn.


I don't know if I've just been on a bad streak or not, but I"ve been in situations wthout using any time quanta except for Eternity (6) and 1 hourglass down (4)   but no actual usage of the hourglass  for a total of 10 time quanta used.    All my other elements have high 20's of usage, my time quanta is sitting down there with only 3 or 4 quanta with only 3 or 4 draws left.   Its just so frustrating to have the game in the bag with my FFQ and Oty and then deck out because my eternity ran out of batteries :(

Please someone reassure me this is just a fluke and I'm just having a bad run here.   This is easily my 10th game where I would've won if not for the lack of time quanta

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg51573#msg51573
« Reply #113 on: April 11, 2010, 07:14:30 am »
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I have added titles to different areas of my first post, hope it helps

I have also posted a few alternative decks that can kill FG too. Thanks to everyone who posted the idea so I can make those  :o

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg51577#msg51577
« Reply #114 on: April 11, 2010, 07:43:59 am »
I also like this way of stopping these guys :P Eat bloodsuckers and vampires, don't worry about graveyards, eventually destroy his eclipses if you can, but it's not necessary. Permafrost reduces 23*4=92 damage to 23*2*47%=21,62 damage per turn on average... not counting those vampire stilettos you can destroy.
I even sometimes do it against Fire Queen too, though you have to be sure she is not going to firebolt you next turn.
My deck has rain of fire, so bam! they are all dead, as long as the queens are eaten.
But having said that, my deck has less healing so I have to watch out even tho this way of stalling reduces alot of damage

So far I'm really liking this deck so thanks for sharing Yaladilae.   I can actually farm half-bloods with it and actually make a stab at false gods from time to time.   The main problem I'm having is time quanta.   I don't abuse the hourglasses really, but I just can't seem to deal out the damage before I deck out which means eternity use.     I can get a good 4 or 5 reverses to keep me alive , but the quantum towers just aren't enough to keep that 3 time quanta refilled every turn.


I don't know if I've just been on a bad streak or not, but I"ve been in situations wthout using any time quanta except for Eternity (6) and 1 hourglass down (4)   but no actual usage of the hourglass  for a total of 10 time quanta used.    All my other elements have high 20's of usage, my time quanta is sitting down there with only 3 or 4 quanta with only 3 or 4 draws left.   Its just so frustrating to have the game in the bag with my FFQ and Oty and then deck out because my eternity ran out of batteries :(

Please someone reassure me this is just a fluke and I'm just having a bad run here.   This is easily my 10th game where I would've won if not for the lack of time quanta
I think you are just unlucky. Most games when I draw my last card, I have 15 or so time quanta.. With 8 pillar, that never made me deck out.  Prehaps upgrade your eternity since it cost less.
The only chance I ever deck out is when Eternity is last card or when I have to rewind over 8 time, then the quanta becomes harsh

Two tips:
Dont use eternity's effect on the FG unless you have to (e.g huge grown lava destroyer, momentumed massive dragon)
During deck out, rewind your spare oty first, so your firefly stay in play and you kill the FG faster

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg52280#msg52280
« Reply #115 on: April 12, 2010, 05:50:14 pm »
Currently using the 3 oty variation of Yaladilae's Butterfly and really loving it.  My win percentage before with my unupped scarred girl was only about .30% but this deck has raised it up to 35% and that is with only one game to destiny which I lost dew to my own mistakes.

You can find my stats here http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=878628310 (http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=878628310)

I was about half way upgraded with my unupped scarred girl so it was really easy to convert to this just needed to buy 6 upped super novas.  I really like this deck and don't find it as volatile as the larger rainbows.
Thanks for the picture and everything
(tho I feel a the picture little unecessary since you changed 1 card)

Like I said oty / pest is definitely better option
But i just personally like the Angel more 8)

Anyway,looking at your stats, you have quite alot of losts
I dont think you should have the FQ and ferox lost as I think those the easiest FG god to play against
I would suggest you take some time to watch some of my videos tutorials (hopfully they help)
Come back to me with any questions you have

On a side note, morte and incarnate you can stall in a different way. Permafrost + a field of his skeleton would make his hand totally useless

Regarding to 35%, since its an average of all the individual win rate, if you won that destiny game, it would definitely be better then 35% > same goes for eldinois and ferox. I have stats too, feel free to look as I will be keep adding to it myself too~
Ok so first off here is the link again to my stats page I have almost 100 games now and over 100 if you count the new gods.  http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=878628310 (http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=878628310).

I like this deck a lot but I don't think it will have a 50% winning percentage for the average person even if you are really lucky.

As far as my losses to ferox and firequeen sometimes you just get unlucky.  Yes they are easy to beat but you need to get at least one oty to do it.  I've had several games where all my oty's are somewhere below my last 14 cards in the deck which is obviously statistically unlikely to happen often but it does happen.  I had one game where 2 of my oty's were the last 2 cards in my deck and I have at least 1 loss due to eternity being my last card.

All this being said I do feel that the percentage of wins should be closer to around 37-43%.

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg52294#msg52294
« Reply #116 on: April 12, 2010, 06:18:37 pm »
Ok so first off here is the link again to my stats page I have almost 100 games now and over 100 if you count the new gods.  http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=878628310 (http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=878628310).

I like this deck a lot but I don't think it will have a 50% winning percentage for the average person even if you are really lucky.

As far as my losses to ferox and firequeen sometimes you just get unlucky.  Yes they are easy to beat but you need to get at least one oty to do it.  I've had several games where all my oty's are somewhere below my last 14 cards in the deck which is obviously statistically unlikely to happen often but it does happen.  I had one game where 2 of my oty's were the last 2 cards in my deck and I have at least 1 loss due to eternity being my last card.

All this being said I do feel that the percentage of wins should be closer to around 37-43%.
Well, I did 10+ games each for every god now.

Before I say anything, if you are really luck, you would win every game!!! (and every lottery !!!!!!!) hehe

Anyway, I hate it when both oty are at the bottom, so i suggest you keep a third one in place of the angel
I see alot of people does not know how to use this deck and come back saying it doesnt work. I am not sure about your playstyle, so i made the videos to help.

But ask yourself, from the very first time you play this deck, and after reading all the help and everything, do you feel your play style improved? If you do, I suggest when you feel confident enough with the deck, try recording another 100 game and see what you get

Other than that, good luck (I have made about 150k now with this deck)~ So keep farming, and have fun!

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg52315#msg52315
« Reply #117 on: April 12, 2010, 07:13:23 pm »
So keep farming, and have fun!
How can you do both at the same time? ???
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« Reply #118 on: April 12, 2010, 08:03:18 pm »
So keep farming, and have fun!
How can you do both at the same time? ???
Just got to smack the master of light once in a while

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg52408#msg52408
« Reply #119 on: April 12, 2010, 10:22:00 pm »
Ok so first off here is the link again to my stats page I have almost 100 games now and over 100 if you count the new gods.  http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=878628310 (http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=878628310).

I like this deck a lot but I don't think it will have a 50% winning percentage for the average person even if you are really lucky.

As far as my losses to ferox and firequeen sometimes you just get unlucky.  Yes they are easy to beat but you need to get at least one oty to do it.  I've had several games where all my oty's are somewhere below my last 14 cards in the deck which is obviously statistically unlikely to happen often but it does happen.  I had one game where 2 of my oty's were the last 2 cards in my deck and I have at least 1 loss due to eternity being my last card.

All this being said I do feel that the percentage of wins should be closer to around 37-43%.
Well, I did 10+ games each for every god now.

Before I say anything, if you are really luck, you would win every game!!! (and every lottery !!!!!!!) hehe

Anyway, I hate it when both oty are at the bottom, so i suggest you keep a third one in place of the angel
I see alot of people does not know how to use this deck and come back saying it doesn't work. I am not sure about your playstyle, so i made the videos to help.

But ask yourself, from the very first time you play this deck, and after reading all the help and everything, do you feel your play style improved? If you do, I suggest when you feel confident enough with the deck, try recording another 100 game and see what you get

Other than that, good luck (I have made about 150k now with this deck)~ So keep farming, and have fun!
I can tell that English isn't your first language and I'm thinking there is a disconnect here in the translation but I'm not criticizing your deck at all.  I will probably play another 100 games and I will keep recording but I would be willing to bet that it doesn't go over 50% and this deck isn't that complicated to play.  My playstyle isn't the problem this deck just requires some luck like every deck.  It's not perfect.  It is very good deck though so congrats on making it.

 

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