Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21)

[yaladilae]

http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=2693896820

Except for one stupid game against Incarnate where I decided that it would be better to play bonewall+RoF instead of keeping Permafrost, a 1/5 win rate ain't that good.

Interesting, I am still editing my main thread to include more stuff
And by the way, I see 1/3 win-rate on your page, but thats only over 15 games...

[Muellje]

I was very intrigued by this deck, and started right away
Although i modified it a little, to better fit my playstyle, i think my statistics can help to get a more solid understanding of how strong the butterfly deck is vs FG

All i did, was add a steal (for bonds, hourglasses, and time factories) and 3 SoD and exchange the angel for a 3rd oty. The SoD work well with the miracle, and i feel, like the steal gave me the edge here and there, although i could be wrong.
PLaying Rainbow is the most frustrating FG-experience so far. Although in two games vs him I had a sweet start and got my oty out in round 2, he just keeps stealing and deflagging all my stuff, and as soon as he puts down 2 graboids at once, this deck looses to him in a painfully slow manner ...

I was running a slight variation of Vreely's deck before 1.21, but got frustrated with it after the patch, because of the bond, hourglass, steal, eternity and pulvy nerf.
Thanks for this interesting deck theme, it's exactly, what I was looking for.

My statistics can be viewed here (http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=2790938783), along with my deck composition:

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(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/de/view/m7Gbd57115/Butterfly_Variant)

[Rastafla]

I used to use a 40 card rainbow, which, while bigger, isn't that significantly bigger. The biggest issue for me is how quanta tight the deck is, and it doesn't help when you need an hourglass within the first few cards to match the card drawing of the gods. In fact, more often than not, I don't draw the right cards. Like, I can never seem to draw the permafrost shield, or the SoGs when I need them.

First impressions is that I can't really see how the deck does so well. More often than not I'm stuck with no ability to speed up my draws.

Perhaps its my playing style, but I'm not fond of this deck. It can work, but might not be in my hands.

First of all the deck is by no means bad or below average. I would say its better than most BUT the Italicized text i highlighted is my main concern. I never get the right cards at the right time.

Its the luck factor. It is my only concern with the deck.

And ive just watched those games you youtubed. Those are cakewalk wins, somewhat what I consider the cannon part of the "glasscannon" comment. Those hands are rare for me. And the following draws were good/excellent which is also rare for me.

Thats why i label this deck a luck needed deck.

Nice comment...
As far as the feedback I got for this deck is a nice deck, works pretty well etc. Nothing ever got into the bad category, or simply saying the deck sucks....

How many games you played before you actually conclude this deck doesnt work for you? If you loose the first 5 games and sold the deck out, then I suppose you wont suceed in doing anything in life, for giving up so easily

Hows hovering around a low hp make me having a good draw?
Hows waiting for the right card to come while getting beat on a good set of draw?
Hows using eternity repeatedly and drawn my entire deck the "glasscannon" aspect of your comment?

If I win, i get good draws by luck, if I loose, my deck sucks? I like this idea!!

And I agree about the "luck" point, but isnt luck something everyone needs in their life?
If only I am lucky enough, I would have won enough lottery and be so rich that I can just sleep in a pile of cash.... 

Oh by the way I will post more videos and stats later, so look out !!!

I played for about 6 hours with your deck. One evening.  I think my rate were around 40-50%. Better "feel" for the deck might push it to permanent 50% OR above but i dont know.

Its the best "luck" deck imo. Its way better than any 45 +/- 5 or above (all those kinds of deck are luckbased imo)

[yaladilae]

    NOTICE   

I have added, as requested, more videos also on how I lost to false gods to gives you some idea also about the weakness of this deck, or how strong some gods can be

Also posted a quick refrence to what control the gods have, as a guideline so you know what is coming and rather you can play something early without quint or not

[yaladilae]

I played for about 6 hours with your deck. One evening.  I think my rate were around 40-50%. Better "feel" for the deck might push it to permanent 50% OR above but i dont know.

Its the best "luck" deck imo. Its way better than any 45 +/- 5 or above (all those kinds of deck are luckbased imo)

Well, as a poll (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,4876.0.html) I have on another thread, any FG deck needs luck, and I dont see mine being any different then any other FG deck you see around.

Prehaps my stats (for the first 100 game) are based on me having better luck on easier god and good draws, but I did die in some game very devastatingly...

Anyway, I had done this previously on an excel not knowing about the elemental stats site, now that I do I am going to slowly add the 100 games and keep track of the later games I play

I was very intrigued by this deck, and started right away
Although i modified it a little, to better fit my playstyle, i think my statistics can help to get a more solid understanding of how strong the butterfly deck is vs FG

All i did, was add a steal (for bonds, hourglasses, and time factories) and 3 SoD and exchange the angel for a 3rd oty. The SoD work well with the miracle, and i feel, like the steal gave me the edge here and there, although i could be wrong.
PLaying Rainbow is the most frustrating FG-experience so far. Although in two games vs him I had a sweet start and got my oty out in round 2, he just keeps stealing and deflagging all my stuff, and as soon as he puts down 2 graboids at once, this deck looses to him in a painfully slow manner ...

I was running a slight variation of Vreely's deck before 1.21, but got frustrated with it after the patch, because of the bond, hourglass, steal, eternity and pulvy nerf.
Thanks for this interesting deck theme, it's exactly, what I was looking for.

My statistics can be viewed here (http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=2790938783), along with my deck composition

Would rather you gave a picture of your deck then code, but i figured out what you did

Like I said in previous post, a 3rd oty / pest would be better then angel hehe
To be honest, I wouldnt approve the 3 SoD because it would totally slow down the deck. Having 3 extra card will make you very unlikly to draw hourglass/permafrost shield on starting hand, which hurts against alot of FG...

Rainbow can be hard, I once set up my defense well against him, but my butterfly angel came late, so he had 5 hourglass up for sometime.
He steal/explode 6 of my pillars, and I broke all his hourglass. He used mircale 3 times with 30 quantum tower (some was stolen from me) and at the end I decked out...

[Muellje]

I was very intrigued by this deck, and started right away
Although i modified it a little, to better fit my playstyle, i think my statistics can help to get a more solid understanding of how strong the butterfly deck is vs FG

All i did, was add a steal (for bonds, hourglasses, and time factories) and 3 SoD and exchange the angel for a 3rd oty. The SoD work well with the miracle, and i feel, like the steal gave me the edge here and there, although i could be wrong.
PLaying Rainbow is the most frustrating FG-experience so far. Although in two games vs him I had a sweet start and got my oty out in round 2, he just keeps stealing and deflagging all my stuff, and as soon as he puts down 2 graboids at once, this deck looses to him in a painfully slow manner ...

I was running a slight variation of Vreely's deck before 1.21, but got frustrated with it after the patch, because of the bond, hourglass, steal, eternity and pulvy nerf.
Thanks for this interesting deck theme, it's exactly, what I was looking for.

My statistics can be viewed here (http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=2790938783), along with my deck composition

Would rather you gave a picture of your deck then code, but i figured out what you did

Like I said in previous post, a 3rd oty / pest would be better then angel hehe
To be honest, I wouldnt approve the 3 SoD because it would totally slow down the deck. Having 3 extra card will make you very unlikly to draw hourglass/permafrost shield on starting hand, which hurts against alot of FG...

Rainbow can be hard, I once set up my defense well against him, but my butterfly angel came late, so he had 5 hourglass up for sometime.
He steal/explode 6 of my pillars, and I broke all his hourglass. He used mircale 3 times with 30 quantum tower (some was stolen from me) and at the end I decked out...

I'll finish the 100 games with the 3 SoD and the steal, after that i'll play the original deck for 100 games. We need stats on how the deck works best, the more tests the better, i believe :p

[yaladilae]

I'll finish the 100 games with the 3 SoD and the steal, after that i'll play the original deck for 100 games. We need stats on how the deck works best, the more tests the better, i believe :p

That would be great

I will keep adding to my 100 games later when I upload all 100 games I had   

[yaladilae]

    NOTICE   

I have now transferred my stats and have added it on the first post

I do admit, I have been quite lucky during this 100 games as I faced quite alot of easy ones. Even against difficult ones on the rare occasion, they seem to not play their deck right and hence I slip a win. And I never had out eternity as my last card

I will continue adding to the stats as I go along 

Happy farming~

[Muellje]

I have finished 100 games with my variation (added 3 SoD and a steal)

Details here (http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=2790938783)

I'm not really satisfied with the results, although not completely unhappy...
Im thinking of combining this deck with Vreely's speed rainbow and see how it does. Vreely's seemed more to have overall more success at beating fg, but that was prepatch. I'll keep posting here, if I keep using Yaladilae's idea =)

[yaladilae]

I have finished 100 games with my variation (added 3 SoD and a steal)

Details here (http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=2790938783)

I'm not really satisfied with the results, although not completely unhappy...
Im thinking of combining this deck with Vreely's speed rainbow and see how it does. Vreely's seemed more to have overall more success at beating fg, but that was prepatch. I'll keep posting here, if I keep using Yaladilae's idea =)

Good to know, but the 3 SoD reli will slow your deck down
Look at some of my videos and you will know why

Besids that, the patch reli changed alot, I was running puppy's variation deck too but realise with the nerfs and more importantly, auto-muligen, I had to make something new and came up with this =D

[Callow]

I have finished 100 games with my variation (added 3 SoD and a steal)

Details here (http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=2790938783)

I'm not really satisfied with the results, although not completely unhappy...
Im thinking of combining this deck with Vreely's speed rainbow and see how it does. Vreely's seemed more to have overall more success at beating fg, but that was prepatch. I'll keep posting here, if I keep using Yaladilae's idea =)

I've done over 100 games now with my variant of 1 extra improved antimatter and 1 tower and my results seem very close to your variation.

http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=3064547624

[yaladilae]

I have finished 100 games with my variation (added 3 SoD and a steal)

Details here (http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=2790938783)

I'm not really satisfied with the results, although not completely unhappy...
Im thinking of combining this deck with Vreely's speed rainbow and see how it does. Vreely's seemed more to have overall more success at beating fg, but that was prepatch. I'll keep posting here, if I keep using Yaladilae's idea =)

I've done over 100 games now with my variant of 1 extra improved antimatter and 1 tower and my results seem very close to your variation.

http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=3064547624

When I made this deck, I tried to make it 35 card but found it extremeley difficult and it optimised at 33

May I suggest that you put in, instead of an extra tower, something extra for healing, an SoG would be great, or a feral bond, just anything but imrpoved mircale

If its still not going too well, change the mircale to another SoG and see