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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg45441#msg45441
« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2010, 08:41:15 am »
Really, interesting, waiting to see what more people say about this. and for stats!

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg45496#msg45496
« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2010, 12:55:58 pm »
I must say I quite like this deck. Interesting usage of Butterfly :)

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg45720#msg45720
« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2010, 07:52:31 pm »

Ive been testing the deck and I've come to these conclusions.

- Glass cannon. The correct early cards and you've shut down the FG almost at once. If they are spread out prepare to face the event horizon.
- WANTED: Mistress of LUCK. You will live on the edge with your hp hopping between 1-25 and eating that big dragon or shrieker or whatever every turn not to be killed, this is common to this deck. Theres hardly any safe time at all. The FG playing a spell or two big a** creatures at once and you're dead.
- Volatile. All FGs that have explode is "instant" loss IMO.
- 90-99 HP. Tricky to EM much of the time. Most wins are at 90-99 hp.
- The Queen's slave. If Elite Queen (your main dmg dealer) is in the bottom half you have to stop drawing extra cards. Decking out is a real possibility since 8 Towers is not enough to generate 3 time quanta each turn while Queen spawns fireflies at a slow pace.

While trying this deck there were wins against every FG except Rainbow/DG/Dark Matter/Hermes. Several deck outs even though I stopped drawing extra from mid deck and saving up time quanta.

Some might want to include upped
+1 Rewind (incase of eternity is last)
It didnt effect gameplay in any way other then its great if you dont need to use it then you have a rewind at 1/3 oft he cost in the end or it removes one big pesky early big hitter like chaos and destiny likes to make. Elidnis sometimes if he doesnt get quint etc.
Glass cannon, i totally agree

This deck is actually ok on the luck side, survival is the key to winning, so sometimes even if that means u play ur bone wall early and let it save u, even at the cost of it being depleted

FG have explode are hard, but not violatile, besides most entrophy FG deck dont have PA too and it still has a good win rate. Time your things and watch out for how many card / quantum type / houseglass your opponent has. Playing a card when you can means you killling yourself

The queen's slave, awesome expression, sometimes i feel that way too, but even queen is towards the end, it just means i get earlier defenses

I rarely deck out, just dont play both hourglass ( i never play both ) and hold the draw unless its very very necessary

I suppose I am just more customed to my own deck which is why i have a very nice win rate with it
Sometimes i face tight situation too, but since the deck is relatively small, the right card usually come along for me


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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg45723#msg45723
« Reply #39 on: March 30, 2010, 07:55:06 pm »
Hi.
This deck really caught my attention, and i wanted to ask a couple of things.

How well this deck does un upgraded? and
What is the strategy you use to beat the FG using this deck?

EDIT: Nvm the second question, I've just practiced with the deck and managed to get the strategy right.
Also noticed that Instead of using Angel I used Archangel and instead of enchant Artifact I used Protect Artifact, and got possitive results. And by using the Archangel instead of the Angel i couldn't use the Butterfly Effect card at all and still got possitive results, and not really needed BE at all fighting FGs, but still using it you can increase the winning percentage a lot.

EDIT2: After more playing and experimenting with the deck, i found out that un upped isnt that effective  ^-^
Haha, anyway, this deck is really really well done and one of the best (or prob the best) deck since the update

Cheers. :D

EDIT3: Yes you might be thinking that i love to edit my posts haha.
Just a few minutes ago I started testing this deck un upped against lvl 5 and it did amazingly well, the only times when i lost where when i ran out of cards (im not good at using the eternity and stuff lol) and when i won it was with elemental mastery.

TL;DR This deck un upped against lvl 5 is awesome
This deck upped against FGs is awesome
With archangel and without BE, this deck will be much slower to kill some gods, and you cant destory dangerous permenant like owls eye, fire shield for example

I doubt un-upped is any good, at least up the tower and the supernovas...

Glad you found it good against lvl5, but i wanted it to be an awesome FG deck  8)

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg45825#msg45825
« Reply #40 on: March 30, 2010, 11:14:56 pm »
With archangel and without BE, this deck will be much slower to kill some gods, and you cant destory dangerous permenant like owls eye, fire shield for example

I doubt un-upped is any good, at least up the tower and the supernovas...

Glad you found it good against lvl5, but i wanted it to be an awesome FG deck  8)
Dont Worry, it IS an awesome FG deck  :P

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg45948#msg45948
« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2010, 03:11:42 am »
 :aether :air :darkness :death :earth :entropy  NOTICE   :fire :gravity :life :light :time :water

With the popular request to add some stats for this deck, I have finally completed a testing of 100 games since v1.21 has come to live

This is added in the first post, enjoy and feedback welcome

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg45949#msg45949
« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2010, 03:18:37 am »
very nice deck

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg46196#msg46196
« Reply #43 on: March 31, 2010, 05:20:47 pm »
In the 10-20 games I played with deck modified -1 angel, protect->enchant, and 3 cards not upgraded yet (1 nova, 2 quint) I've had pretty horrible win rates, close to 10%. 

So I decided to try this deck as it was posted (given, still missing those 3 upgrades), to see if my adjustment made the deck that much worse, or if I was just unlucky... and I would have beat dark matter first try except I decked out cause eternity was my last card.

So yeah, I think I'm cursed.

EDIT: you got 38 cards in 68 wins?  that's nearly 53% card/win rate.  My stats from 1.20,  (http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=1342986862) 8 cards, 29 wins = 27.5% card/win rate, and I mastered most of those.

So yeah I'm cursed

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg46212#msg46212
« Reply #44 on: March 31, 2010, 05:57:53 pm »
In the 10-20 games I played with deck modified -1 angel, protect->enchant, and 3 cards not upgraded yet (1 nova, 2 quint) I've had pretty horrible win rates, close to 10%. 

So I decided to try this deck as it was posted (given, still missing those 3 upgrades), to see if my adjustment made the deck that much worse, or if I was just unlucky... and I would have beat dark matter first try except I decked out cause eternity was my last card.

So yeah, I think I'm cursed.

EDIT: you got 38 cards in 68 wins?  that's nearly 53% card/win rate.  My stats from 1.20,  (http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=1342986862) 8 cards, 29 wins = 27.5% card/win rate, and I mastered most of those.

So yeah I'm cursed
you have to use all nova upped, 3 un-upped quint is also ok
With somethig to butterfly, u get much greater win rate

Close win to dark matter just shows its working out well, keep trying and eventually you will pull off great, besides u lost by bad luck
(I hate it too when eternity is last)

On the cards stat, bear in mind you get 3 rolls each win, so its 38/204 = 18.6%

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg46218#msg46218
« Reply #45 on: March 31, 2010, 06:09:24 pm »
yep, yep, but I think 1 nova and 5 supernovas shouldn't make a 50% win rate difference. 

I typically butterfly my 2nd oty, perhaps I should try using 3 of them, but I only have 2 upped otys atm.  EDIT: or perhaps a pest as suggested in this thread, but I don't have any of those upped either.

yep, and that was 8 cards from 29 wins = 87 spins, so it's 9.2%

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg46223#msg46223
« Reply #46 on: March 31, 2010, 06:19:34 pm »
yep, yep, but I think 1 nova and 5 supernovas shouldn't make a 50% win rate difference. 

I typically butterfly my 2nd oty, perhaps I should try using 3 of them, but I only have 2 upped otys atm.  EDIT: or perhaps a pest as suggested in this thread, but I don't have any of those upped either.

yep, and that was 8 cards from 29 wins = 87 spins, so it's 9.2%
Trust me, you need the last supernova

My tip: Sell the upped quint and PA for some cash, then get the extra oty upped

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg46393#msg46393
« Reply #47 on: April 01, 2010, 12:49:53 am »
Tested this deck with all cards upgraded, rainbow is really hard to beat, the fact that it steals/explodes your shards and your shields while at the same time forming an offence army just tears you down to pieces (80% of the time it always has an explosion/steal somewhere in the first 1-2rounds, unless you got a bone wall at starting draw and it blows that instead). Other than the gods who takes away your pillars/shields/shards, this deck would be nice for easy to medium difficulty gods. Dark matter would probably just blow this deck away if it draws a nymph out before you have oty or it uses black hole at the same time. With gods who uses poison, accumulated poison takes off the shards healing very quickly, i dont know if adding a purify in this deck works or not, but it would be cool if your down on low health with 20 poison, then you use purify+miracle, that could buy you more time.
If you want mastery for it, i would suggest adding a feral bond in the deck.
But weighing the pros and cons, this deck is overall nice for FG farming.  :D

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