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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg41994#msg41994
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2010, 05:28:33 pm »
how about using hope instand of bonewall?? (and un-upped FQ)
I tried too, first the light quantum so i cant play early mircale

Second, bone wall I can use early game to have 7 sure block
But if i dont draw queen early enough to start have firefly, hope is hopeness

The reason i will play bone wall early is because most da time ice shield is powerful enough =)

If you can think of something that can compensate for bone wall, I can try, improved dusk seems quite good too, which i tried, but just not as stable as bone wall, improve fog is very early game shield, which is very good too =)

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg42165#msg42165
« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2010, 12:45:39 am »
What if your permafrost shield is stolen?

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg42169#msg42169
« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2010, 12:50:51 am »
What if your permafrost shield is stolen?
destory it LOL
cant do much about that

Its not game devastating compare to eternity getting stolen (decking out)

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg42173#msg42173
« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2010, 12:55:45 am »
whoooa, that otyugh in the ferox fight could've almost eaten an armagio... pretty beast

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg42999#msg42999
« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2010, 10:38:45 pm »
Very nice deck with both permanent and creature control.

Consider removing Miracle in place of all the new possibilities in light (Sundials, Hope). I haven't found it as useful as sundials in this deck, as you heal each turn and a turn of stall=15HP or so. Also, in order for it to be effective, you're already losing/lost.

I think that 1.21 calls for more time-based rainbows. I would run this deck with two more time towers and one more hourglass. Thoughts?

Graveyard or Boneyard? (you have many unused quantums)


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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg43176#msg43176
« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2010, 07:57:19 am »
Very nice deck with both permanent and creature control.

Consider removing Miracle in place of all the new possibilities in light (Sundials, Hope). I haven't found it as useful as sundials in this deck, as you heal each turn and a turn of stall=15HP or so. Also, in order for it to be effective, you're already losing/lost.

I think that 1.21 calls for more time-based rainbows. I would run this deck with two more time towers and one more hourglass. Thoughts?

Graveyard or Boneyard? (you have many unused quantums)
With auto muligen, you have to keep your deck small or its hard to get a good draw

you can replace mircale with another sog, but i always pull mircale off in time, so it saved me alot, especialy earlier in game, for example against mircale when he has 2 dragon out, and i draw nothing but pillar and super nova, that saved my life, then i start drawing things like permafrost shield which gradually lead me to a win.

And of coz, if you didnt have to use mircale early in game, you can save it and use it late game combo with bone wall to ensure you get EM

Hope is just too slow, first quint usually goes to oty, then you have to wait for quinted FFQ to pull out 1 firefly a turn, where these firefly and easily killed since the FG's creature control will all go to them, as the rest of your stuff is quinted

If you are going with sundials and boneyard, maybe you should look into the bigger time rainbows =)
Those bigger build-up (slower) rainbows are more for the time/sundial strategy

I like my deck fast and small hehe

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg43449#msg43449
« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2010, 01:20:09 am »
Why did you choose to use Guardian Angel?
High hp and low cost, the heal could be slightly useful early game, but not extremely useful
Just my personal favorite card  :P

But like i said, pest should be better
I Changed the Angel for a oty
Increases odds of getting a oty in your starting hand and then the 2nd (or 3rd) can be used for butterfly effect
can be a bit expensive on gravity  :gravity, but it has not been a major problem for me so far

its an awsome deck though.. and worked quite well for me in the trainer

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg43787#msg43787
« Reply #31 on: March 26, 2010, 12:32:15 am »
Why did you choose to use Guardian Angel?
High hp and low cost, the heal could be slightly useful early game, but not extremely useful
Just my personal favorite card  :P

But like i said, pest should be better
I Changed the Angel for a oty
Increases odds of getting a oty in your starting hand and then the 2nd (or 3rd) can be used for butterfly effect
can be a bit expensive on gravity  :gravity, but it has not been a major problem for me so far

its an awsome deck though.. and worked quite well for me in the trainer
Thanks, like I said i just like the angel

Oty would be nice, since I ever only play 1 oty,until the end if i have alot of  :gravity quata, then i rewind that first, then firefly

In your case, you will ever play 2 oty so  :gravity should be no problem!

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg45268#msg45268
« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2010, 10:00:16 pm »
Ive been testing the deck and I've come to these conclusions.

- Glass cannon. The correct early cards and you've shut down the FG almost at once. If they are spread out prepare to face the event horizon.
- WANTED: Mistress of LUCK. You will live on the edge with your hp hopping between 1-25 and eating that big dragon or shrieker or whatever every turn not to be killed, this is common to this deck. Theres hardly any safe time at all. The FG playing a spell or two big a** creatures at once and you're dead.
- Volatile. All FGs that have explode is "instant" loss IMO.
- 90-99 HP. Tricky to EM much of the time. Most wins are at 90-99 hp.
- The Queen's slave. If Elite Queen (your main dmg dealer) is in the bottom half you have to stop drawing extra cards. Decking out is a real possibility since 8 Towers is not enough to generate 3 time quanta each turn while Queen spawns fireflies at a slow pace.

While trying this deck there were wins against every FG except Rainbow/DG/Dark Matter/Hermes. Several deck outs even though I stopped drawing extra from mid deck and saving up time quanta.

Some might want to include upped
+1 Rewind (incase of eternity is last)
It didnt effect gameplay in any way other then its great if you dont need to use it then you have a rewind at 1/3 oft he cost in the end or it removes one big pesky early big hitter like chaos and destiny likes to make. Elidnis sometimes if he doesnt get quint etc.
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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg45288#msg45288
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2010, 11:29:57 pm »
I was wondering the w/l ratio, if that info is available.  If I missed it, I apologize in advance.

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg45318#msg45318
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2010, 12:45:34 am »
I was wondering the w/l ratio, if that info is available.  If I missed it, I apologize in advance.
I am testing the stats at the moment,

But out of the last 10 game, i won 9 game, with 1 rainbow and 2 scorpio

Edit: after looking back on the stats, the other 6 games was against easy gods

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Re: Yaladilae's Butterfly Angel (v1.21) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4212.msg45393#msg45393
« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2010, 03:55:40 am »
Hi.
This deck really caught my attention, and i wanted to ask a couple of things.

How well this deck does un upgraded? and
What is the strategy you use to beat the FG using this deck?

EDIT: Nvm the second question, I've just practiced with the deck and managed to get the strategy right.
Also noticed that Instead of using Angel I used Archangel and instead of enchant Artifact I used Protect Artifact, and got possitive results. And by using the Archangel instead of the Angel i couldn't use the Butterfly Effect card at all and still got possitive results, and not really needed BE at all fighting FGs, but still using it you can increase the winning percentage a lot.

EDIT2: After more playing and experimenting with the deck, i found out that un upped isnt that effective  ^-^
Haha, anyway, this deck is really really well done and one of the best (or prob the best) deck since the update

Cheers. :D

EDIT3: Yes you might be thinking that i love to edit my posts haha.
Just a few minutes ago I started testing this deck un upped against lvl 5 and it did amazingly well, the only times when i lost where when i ran out of cards (im not good at using the eternity and stuff lol) and when i won it was with elemental mastery.

TL;DR This deck un upped against lvl 5 is awesome
This deck upped against FGs is awesome

 

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