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Re: FG OTK CataTitans [Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57614.msg1180077#msg1180077
« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2015, 05:04:10 am »
If last turn catapult is the largest issue in good matchups, try with 5 catapults. If you're drawing your deck faster than quanta allows you to play combo, the dead card won't slow you as much

True, and since there'll be plenty of opportunities to fill up your hand with cards and discard a Catapult, I guess it couldn't hurt.
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Re: FG OTK CataTitans [Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57614.msg1180086#msg1180086
« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2015, 07:47:05 am »
And with all good FG killers, why not throw in some stats on variations? I'll definitely be taking stats on my version :p 
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Re: FG OTK CataTitans [Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57614.msg1180103#msg1180103
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2015, 03:00:12 pm »
And with all good FG killers, why not throw in some stats on variations? I'll definitely be taking stats on my version :p

Okay, then what's a good amount of times to face each FG? 20? 50? 100? I'm relatively new to this, so I have no clue.
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Re: FG OTK CataTitans [Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57614.msg1180105#msg1180105
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2015, 03:30:29 pm »
And with all good FG killers, why not throw in some stats on variations? I'll definitely be taking stats on my version :p

Okay, then what's a good amount of times to face each FG? 20? 50? 100? I'm relatively new to this, so I have no clue.

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Re: FG OTK CataTitans [Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57614.msg1180121#msg1180121
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2015, 07:11:27 pm »
That's fun! Only one rare (and well, it's a weapon so it's given by a quest if I remember)!

I'm agree with Chapuz: going with 6x Dim & 6x Sundial is better, no matter the deck will be 30+. I added also a fifth Cata following Serpex's advice.

I tried this once, it was ok (and really fun to made the OTK) vs Neptune:

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Great job, AD Storm Bolt  ;)

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Re: FG OTK CataTitans [Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57614.msg1180123#msg1180123
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2015, 07:56:43 pm »
That's fun! Only one rare (and well, it's a weapon so it's given by a quest if I remember)!

I'm agree with Chapuz: going with 6x Dim & 6x Sundial is better, no matter the deck will be 30+. I added also a fifth Cata following Serpex's advice.

I tried this once, it was ok (and really fun to made the OTK) vs Neptune:

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Great job, AD Storm Bolt  ;)

Thanks! ;D I'm glad you like it! Just imagine, flinging hammers at gods to make them die. :D

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The reason I decided to stay with Hourglasses is because you need to be able to get the Dim Shield within the first 3-4 turns, and with only one Nova, there's only a small chance that you won't be able to get it out (4 Pendulums/Novae is the minimum IIRC from testing) due to the mulligan.

Also, six draws is not nearly enough to make this deck go by fast. The fact that your deck is much larger than 30 cards (or 32 cards in my case) makes the deck go by slower than if you used Hourglasses.
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Re: FG OTK CataTitans [Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57614.msg1180142#msg1180142
« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2015, 08:58:44 pm »
If you run Novas you can need much less gravy quanta running the deck with this combo: Voodoo + 3x BB + Freeze + 2x TU, so you only need 1 upgraded card (Voodoo).
You need 1 RT in case you have a last-card catapult.
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Re: FG OTK CataTitans [Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57614.msg1180144#msg1180144
« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2015, 09:10:52 pm »
If you run Novas you can need much less gravy quanta running the deck with this combo: Voodoo + 3x BB + Freeze + 2x TU, so you only need 1 upgraded card (Voodoo).
You need 1 RT in case you have a last-card catapult.

That sounds like it would be good, but that is a seven card combo, and along with the RT that will be saved until the very end just in case, that's eight possible hand cloggers. That's the situation that I've been trying to avoid, since Limitless Speed, while it is amazing, has some annoying moments where you have to discard something just because all the other cards are combo cards.

(I'm not saying Limitless Speed sucks, it's great Chapuz ;))

I like the idea of using RT, but then I would have to completely change the combo to fling actual creatures instead of Titans, maybe I could fit in a cheap creature like an Ash Eater to RT.
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Re: FG OTK CataTitans [Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57614.msg1180156#msg1180156
« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2015, 11:01:07 pm »
use 1 Voddo doll, its only 2 darkness.
Dont use reverse time, FGs have double draw anyway. RT would definitely find its place in this combo deck if you were gonna use it in PVP (but then youd change the quanta balance to be less strenuous.)
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Re: FG OTK CataTitans [Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57614.msg1180160#msg1180160
« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2015, 11:12:32 pm »
use 1 Voddo doll, its only 2 darkness.
Dont use reverse time, FGs have double draw anyway. RT would definitely find its place in this combo deck if you were gonna use it in PVP (but then youd change the quanta balance to be less strenuous.)

What do you mean FGs have double draw? I was talking about using RT on a cheap creature in case you get a last turn Catapult.
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Re: FG OTK CataTitans [Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57614.msg1180292#msg1180292
« Reply #34 on: February 23, 2015, 09:51:08 pm »
Wouldn't it be better to just include one more Catapult instead of RT? This way, if drawn before the last card in your deck, you can also be less scared if one gets destroyed.
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Re: FG OTK CataTitans [Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57614.msg1180296#msg1180296
« Reply #35 on: February 23, 2015, 10:38:04 pm »
Wouldn't it be better to just include one more Catapult instead of RT? This way, if drawn before the last card in your deck, you can also be less scared if one gets destroyed.

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