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Re: VooTUFlew[FG][OTK][Partially-Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34071.msg457461#msg457461
« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2012, 05:33:00 am »
Tried this out on the trainer, and it works pretty well. Good Job!  :)

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Re: VooTUFlew[FG][OTK][Partially-Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34071.msg459302#msg459302
« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2012, 02:59:22 pm »
Also, one way to get around needing 3 catapults is to use 1 catapult + chimera instead. Parallel universe the dolls after blooding, chimera, then freeze then catapult.

That will cost 10 :gravity only, catapult is 3 :gravity ability cost 1 :gravity chimera 6 :gravity

You cal also use 2 catapults + chimera - rewind since bottom decking catapult is impossible in this situation.

Not its 31 cards instead of 32!  :D

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Re: VooTUFlew[FG][OTK][Partially-Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34071.msg459308#msg459308
« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2012, 03:13:23 pm »
Also, one way to get around needing 3 catapults is to use 1 catapult + chimera instead. Parallel universe the dolls after blooding, chimera, then freeze then catapult.

That will cost 10 :gravity only, catapult is 3 :gravity ability cost 1 :gravity chimera 6 :gravity

You cal also use 2 catapults + chimera - rewind since bottom decking catapult is impossible in this situation.

Not its 31 cards instead of 32!  :D
Alas, I wish this was possible, but catapult damage does not work like that.

http://elementsthegame.wikia.com/wiki/Catapult

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Re: VooTUFlew[FG][OTK][Partially-Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34071.msg459331#msg459331
« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2012, 04:19:22 pm »
ugh oh well nevermind

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Re: VooTUFlew[FG][OTK][Partially-Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34071.msg459372#msg459372
« Reply #40 on: February 12, 2012, 06:09:05 pm »
I suppose you could do a nova version, but without any fast draws, and auto loses vs. PC.

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Well, I tried this deck to get a feel for it. My match was vs. Seism, and even though he destroyed every tower I played, I still won solidly. However, I had to draw through pretty much my whole deck, which takes WAY too long.

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Re: VooTUFlew[FG][OTK][Partially-Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34071.msg541998#msg541998
« Reply #41 on: September 15, 2012, 12:09:35 am »
Updated with PVP 2 lol. I forgot about this, but someone just posted a similar combo and I was like, oh I should do this.

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Re: Throwing Titans (may need a better name)[FG][OTK] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34071.msg1000547#msg1000547
« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2012, 11:45:30 pm »
Edit: Asked and answered, my bad.
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Re: Throwing Titans (may need a better name)[FG][OTK] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34071.msg1000548#msg1000548
« Reply #43 on: September 17, 2012, 11:47:08 pm »


I'm sorry, what's mulligan?


Lol. Its supposedly something like you're guaranteed at least one no-cost card in your starting hand, so that gets screwed up my having free cards other than quanta. But I've seen several hands with no free cards at all, so I'm not sure the mulligan is actually a real thing.
when you draw your first 7 cards, if you don't have any 0 cost cards you redraw 7 cards. this happens only once and you don't know when it happens.
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Re: VooTUFlew[FG][OTK][Partially-Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34071.msg1037113#msg1037113
« Reply #44 on: January 31, 2013, 04:51:03 am »
Ladies and gentlemen, the new Instosis.
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Re: VooTUFlew[FG][OTK][Partially-Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34071.msg1037363#msg1037363
« Reply #45 on: January 31, 2013, 08:51:23 pm »
Funny thing, I came up with a very similar deck before seeing this one bumped. I got some success with it, both against FG and in PvP.
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There's no need for a Voodoo doll. Just BB a singularity. Also, Precog + SoBra is more reliable than  :time Tower + Hourglass. Proof :
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PvP2 version is -1 BB -1 TU +2 Precogs.
Both versions can be tweaked with -1 BB +1 Voodoo doll, but I prefer the singularity version.
Pros:
-If one of your Singularities grows to at least 10HP (in PvP2, or 19HP against FG) you'll need one fewer BB.
-The AI will not kill your Singularities, and will often waste useful cards on them (rage potions…)
-Players may have various funny reactions to Singularity spam
-Singularities may TU themselves, which gives you a hope against SoD (or may save you a TU)
Cons:
-Singularities may quint themselves, making it impossible to pull the combo
-They may also adre themselves, causing them to un-freeze faster (almost never a problem, especially with upped freeze)
-Voodoo doll lets you delay the enemy's weapon, if CC isn't a risk


In the best case scenario, you only have to create one singularity, by playing two SN on the last turn. But if you have to, creating more Singularities isn't usually a problem, since sundials prevent them from attacking.
Note that since most games end in less than 7 turns, it's often a good idea to play more than one sundial on one turn.
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Re: VooTUFlew[FG][OTK][Partially-Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34071.msg1037365#msg1037365
« Reply #46 on: January 31, 2013, 09:11:14 pm »
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And wasting a Sundial in turn 1, if not more when you don't get a SN. How good does it work?
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Re: VooTUFlew[FG][OTK][Partially-Unupped] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34071.msg1037379#msg1037379
« Reply #47 on: January 31, 2013, 09:36:22 pm »
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And wasting a Sundial in turn 1, if not more when you don't get a SN. How good does it work?
6 SN in a 30 cards deck, there's only (21!/(6!*15!))/(30!/(6!*24!)) = 9.1% chance of not getting one by turn 2 (I'm not taking into account the automated mulligan here, for the sake of simplicity).

In PvP2 it's usually:
T1: nothing
T2: play some sundials
T3: play SNs, catapults, precogs, SoBras and sundials as they come, draw from the previous sundials
T4: draw what's left in my deck, play the combo
TTW is around 4.5, winrate is quite low, but wins are fun.

Against FG, it's usually a bit longer, because we need to draw more cards with less drawpower. I haven't taken stats, but I'd say TTW is around 7 (I was really lucky to get this 3 turn win).

 

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