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Voodoo Sudden Killer (voodoo, rage potion, PU, otk) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15743.msg201608#msg201608
« on: November 15, 2010, 09:47:09 am »
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I made this deck a couple of weeks ago after I saw a deck utilizing bb/gravpull and TU. After seeing the potential of rage potions and voodoo dolls (10 damage per rage potion, up to 30 damage per voodoo doll) I decided to make a voodoo deck utilizing rage potion and PU. I got annoyed every time the opponent CC'd my voodoo dolls before I could PU them, and then I had an epiphany. Why put your voodoo dolls out in the cold, dangerous wilderness when you can keep them in the warm, cuddly safety of your hand?

Ways to kill:
2 :darkness, 9 :fire, 21 :aether, 1 voodoo, 3 rage potions, 3 PUs = 60 unblock-able damage and 4 block-able 15-damage creatures. (120 damage)
2 :darkness, 6 :fire, 28 :aether, 1 voodoo, 2 rage potions, 4 PUs = 50 unblock-able damage and 5 block-able 10-damage creatures. (100 damage)
Discard cards as necessary.

Weaknesses:
Damage reduction shields if you can't stall and only get 2 rage potions. (glares at shrieker elder)
Dimensional Shield...Bonewall...actually, almost all shields will royally duck you up.
Rush decks.
Earthquake/Quicksand. (glares at shrieker elder)
Stoneskin/SODs (glares at shrieker elder, though I don't think he uses them if he's at 100 hp)
Deflagrations/Explosions that destroy your sundials, making you unable to stall or draw fast enough. Or, they can just destroy most of your aether pillars.
Devourers/Pests that steal your 2 :dark

I still need to create a strategy, though. Usually I keep my novas in my hand so I can discard cards earlier, which would allow me to have more space to draw cards when using sundials. Then I would play sundials as soon as possible, although I don't know the effectiveness of chaining and if it's possible to still capitalize on the extra draws with such a congested hand.

Usual Strategy:
Quanta...Pillars: Play immediately.
Combo Cards...Voodoo Dolls, Parallel Universe, Rage Potion: Keep in hand for the 1HKO. Discard any that do not fit the combo you can achieve with the quanta you will get. For example, if you have 4 Parallel Universes, 3 Rage Potions, 1 Voodoo Doll, 24 :aether, and 7 :fire, then discard the third Rage Potion. If you have 10 :aether by mid-game, you most likely will never survive to 28 and should discard any 4th PU you get. If you have extra :fire and a 4th Rage Potion, feel free to use it to kill an opposing creature.
Stall...Novas, Sundial: Keep novas in hand so you can discard. Only when you can't discard anything without taking out from the combo should you use a nova. If you have 7 cards in your hand a Sundial, 1 :time and 1 :light, then play it. If the Sundial is one of the 8 cards and you also have a Nova, play the Nova with the Sundial. Discard Sundials if you have no combo cards to discard and no :time to play the Sundial. If you have quanta, play it instead of discarding and hope for a Nova so that you can free up your hand for the extra draw.

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Re: One-Turn Knockout! (voodoo, rage potion, PU) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15743.msg201616#msg201616
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2010, 10:26:26 am »
My first impression is that this deck has way too many weaknesses to be able to pull off it's OTK. How fast can it get the OTK, perhaps stalling with 1 or two dim shields could be possible?
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Re: One-Turn Knockout! (voodoo, rage potion, PU) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15743.msg201619#msg201619
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2010, 10:41:12 am »
My first impression is that this deck has way too many weaknesses to be able to pull off it's OTK. How fast can it get the OTK, perhaps stalling with 1 or two dim shields could be possible?
It can usually get it before you die by ai3.

I don't think adding in one dimshield would be useful, and adding more than one would make you need to completely change the deck by taking away the novas and the sundials..

And even though the extra three turns per dimshield would help, it only helps against pure rush, so it still leaves you weak against:

Damage reduction shields
Dimensional Shield/Bonewall
Rush decks.
Earthquake/Quicksand
Stoneskin/SODs
Deflagrations/Explosions
Devourers (assuming you aren't running novas)

You can try making a variant, but I don't think it would be the same deck because it's more stally than this one.

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Re: One-Turn Knockout! (voodoo, rage potion, PU) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15743.msg205272#msg205272
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2010, 04:01:45 pm »
Before you die by AI3... optimistic. How about FGs? AI5?

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Re: One-Turn Knockout! (voodoo, rage potion, PU) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15743.msg205835#msg205835
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2010, 04:15:18 am »
Considering it's an OTK, it wouldn't really be up for AIs with 200 hp. I would think this deck is more of a PVP 1 deck
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Re: One-Turn Knockout! (voodoo, rage potion, PU) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15743.msg213631#msg213631
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2010, 03:27:57 pm »
I have one similar but use titan and flying weapon instead, with 50hp you  can rage portion freely and has momentum effect

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Re: One-Turn Knockout! (voodoo, rage potion, PU) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15743.msg217343#msg217343
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2010, 05:23:38 pm »
I have one similar but use titan and flying weapon instead, with 50hp you  can rage portion freely and has momentum effect
That's not really similar at all...The only similar thing is rage potion, but there are tons of decks that use rage potion prolifically.

Anyways, this deck is not meant to deal lots of damage over the course of the battle like a momentumed, rage potioned titan. It's supposed to be awesome because it can make your opponent drop from 100 hp to 0 hp in one turn.

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Re: One-Turn Knockout! (voodoo, rage potion, PU) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15743.msg217920#msg217920
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2010, 08:38:04 am »
It's fun if you use it in PVP1 or something and wait until your opponent starts gloating :P
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Re: One-Turn Knockout! (voodoo, rage potion, PU) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15743.msg218892#msg218892
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2010, 04:12:13 pm »
So now, all we need is for someone to tweak the deck so it actually works and do a Mr-Sexington-esque picture show portraying the lulz produced in pvp1.

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Re: One-Turn Knockout! (voodoo, rage potion, PU) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15743.msg227693#msg227693
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2010, 10:55:28 pm »
Very fun deck played it on trainer except got some of the cards upgraded for less mana cost except for the novas so that i can play the novas straight away. Quite fun thanks for the deck.

 

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