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Re: Voodoo bravery [FG][Arena][Fast][Focused] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41435.msg1062321#msg1062321
« Reply #48 on: April 21, 2013, 06:45:51 pm »
I'm really digging this deck - very quick games and much more interesting that running PDials.  I just played vs. Decay, and had a perfect draw - doll was out in the first turn but I GPed it right away - big mistake.  Decay never played Eclipse or any damage dealing creatures, thereby decking me out.

I think the trick vs. Decay is to wait until you're getting damage before playing the GP...  if you still have any quanta left.  Tricky indeed.
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Re: Voodoo bravery [FG][Arena][Fast][Focused] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41435.msg1062324#msg1062324
« Reply #49 on: April 21, 2013, 06:50:59 pm »
I'm really digging this deck - very quick games and much more interesting that running PDials.  I just played vs. Decay, and had a perfect draw - doll was out in the first turn but I GPed it right away - big mistake.  Decay never played Eclipse or any damage dealing creatures, thereby decking me out.

I think the trick vs. Decay is to wait until you're getting damage before playing the GP...  if you still have any quanta left.  Tricky indeed.
Yes, that's the strategy against Decay. Hoping he plays an early Eclipse.
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Re: Voodoo bravery [FG][Arena][Fast][Focused] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41435.msg1062325#msg1062325
« Reply #50 on: April 21, 2013, 06:52:21 pm »
Decay only has Pests with Eclipse for damage that affects the doll, but he won't hold it even if you have a pulled doll. If he doesn't play it, that just means that he never drew it with 2 copies in 60 cards. If you have the combo set up already, don't use the shards.

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Re: Voodoo bravery [FG][Arena][Fast][Focused] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41435.msg1064307#msg1064307
« Reply #51 on: April 27, 2013, 03:57:15 am »
Decay only has Pests with Eclipse for damage that affects the doll, but he won't hold it even if you have a pulled doll. If he doesn't play it, that just means that he never drew it with 2 copies in 60 cards. If you have the combo set up already, don't use the shards.

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Re: Voodoo bravery [FG][Arena][Fast][Focused] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41435.msg1066304#msg1066304
« Reply #52 on: May 04, 2013, 04:31:35 am »
This is the version I am currently using. Works like charm and is really, really fast!

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Re: Voodoo bravery [FG][Arena][Fast][Focused] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41435.msg1066342#msg1066342
« Reply #53 on: May 04, 2013, 10:11:15 am »
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you run the danger of decking out, don't you?

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Re: Voodoo bravery [FG][Arena][Fast][Focused] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41435.msg1066529#msg1066529
« Reply #54 on: May 04, 2013, 09:07:05 pm »
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you run the danger of decking out, don't you?
You stop drawing before you deck out. FG damage is quite fast, so games are likely to end very quickly, before you run out of cards.
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Re: Voodoo bravery [FG][Arena][Fast][Focused] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41435.msg1075096#msg1075096
« Reply #55 on: May 28, 2013, 04:03:55 pm »
@Chapuz, how would your version work unupped/partly-upped?

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Re: Voodoo bravery [FG][Arena][Fast][Focused] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41435.msg1075097#msg1075097
« Reply #56 on: May 28, 2013, 04:12:16 pm »
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you run the danger of decking out, don't you?
Nah, FGs damage is high and you don't play QPs if you see you are going to deck out

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Re: Voodoo bravery [FG][Arena][Fast][Focused] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41435.msg1081348#msg1081348
« Reply #57 on: June 19, 2013, 09:45:30 am »
Because of a formula mistake in the spreadsheet I was using, the stats I posted had wrong values for normalized winrate and FGei. I have edited my posts (here and here).

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Re: Voodoo bravery [FG][Arena][Fast][Focused] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41435.msg1081704#msg1081704
« Reply #58 on: June 20, 2013, 11:59:23 pm »
I suspect I am somehow playing these wrong:

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I am 9W 9L plus 4 skips with it.  Sure it is quick, but 9 of 22 matches so far (small sample, a bit yeah) end without the combo happening.  Are there ways to modify this to get better draw consistency?  I then moved to the Nova/Aether Tower version that has 3 dolls and 3 pulls as those were the most common piece missing from my draw with the above.  That leads to this:

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I am 9W 14L plus 1 skip with this variation.  With this the combo is pulled of most every match but I run into the problem of not enough Nova to power more BB's for losses.  :'(  I was hoping Voodoo Bravery would give me the speedy change-of-pace to my plodding but reliable (I thought PDials could have bad draws until I played today with Voodoo Bravery decks!) PDials SoSac deck.  I suppose it is fun, but the drop-off in efficiency turns me off from it :(

Can someone with a bit more Voodoo Bravery experience show me that I'm just starting on a bad streak with the deck or should I expect that ratio of bad hands+draws?  I feel I am following most all of the hints/tricks of the OP already.
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Re: Voodoo bravery [FG][Arena][Fast][Focused] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41435.msg1081749#msg1081749
« Reply #59 on: June 21, 2013, 05:17:23 am »
I think that you were just unlucky. I used this deck (the PSNbow with six SoBr) to grind for over 5000 games and, although I didn't record data for those games, the change in my W/L stats showed a winrate of around 47%, consistent with the sample that I did record data for. Also, you said that you had 9 out of 22 games where you didn't get the combo, which is all of the non-skip losses. In my data of 162 games, out of the 67 non-skip losses only 35 of them were from not being able to play the combo, including not having SNs or pendulums.

 

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