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Void Dials [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50440.msg1087947#msg1087947
« on: July 20, 2013, 01:09:00 am »
Play like pdials, except with voids instead of poison.  (Except that last hit)

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Pros:
Beats the healers like Miracle, Eldinis, Ferox

Cons:
The one protect artifact helps against those with perm control, but doesn't always come up in time.
No additional damage from weapon means you need the full 17 to 23 turns to win.  Don't Start SoSa or Sundials Too Soon!  Don't overdraw with Sundials.

In effect, Higher Win Rate, Higher Turns to Win. 

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Re: Void Dials [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50440.msg1087951#msg1087951
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2013, 02:19:02 am »
Yer missing one of the biggest drawbacks since you're using SoSa: no enhanced SoD's. In fact, no SoD's at all. Poison is a nice touch compared to ye old Zen though: no more need for two cards to guarantee a kill.
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Re: Void Dials [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50440.msg1087985#msg1087985
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2013, 01:34:30 pm »
I was thinking of this as a 33 card variant, but didn't know if it allowed breaking of the chain too much as if 48 more health was worth it.  In effect I didn't test this, where I tested the original posted.  In addition for FGs it's not like plat where you get insane moneys from the SoD bonus, instead you just care about the win for the spin.

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Re: Void Dials [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50440.msg1087993#msg1087993
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2013, 02:05:41 pm »
What you say about winning fast being important against FGs is correct. However, the 60 hp you start off (100 - 40 that you need for SoSac) can disappear fast before you get a Sosac. There is a reason that PDials have between 3 - 5 SoD's and a light mark afterall! Especially in this case, when sundials' hasten should not be used often  to prevent decking out, I think a few SoD is necessary.

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Re: Void Dials [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50440.msg1087995#msg1087995
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2013, 02:12:50 pm »
Have, fun I just don't think the 2nd will work as well.  It gives you options, but dead cards too..

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Re: Void Dials [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50440.msg1088082#msg1088082
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2013, 10:13:47 pm »
I've been running this in pvp2 with success, the poison to avoid 2 cards being a necessity for a kill is a nice touch, it's just a shame it activates before the SoV unlike a longsword.

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Re: Void Dials [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50440.msg1088084#msg1088084
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2013, 10:23:52 pm »
I use this version quite often. It is often short on light quanta, but you are usually able to play your SoD's by the end.

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Re: Void Dials [FG][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50440.msg1088212#msg1088212
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2013, 09:02:38 pm »
What you say about winning fast being important against FGs is correct. However, the 60 hp you start off (100 - 40 that you need for SoSac) can disappear fast before you get a Sosac. There is a reason that PDials have between 3 - 5 SoD's and a light mark afterall! Especially in this case, when sundials' hasten should not be used often  to prevent decking out, I think a few SoD is necessary.

I'll give the second deck a quick go :)
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