Veens Vicious Viotech/ VVV (upgraded FG Killer, for score and electrum, 95% EM)

[Zerker]

if you want to deck lionheart out anitimatter the eternity he will still use it as endow target  only a small suggestion cause he is playing 2 Flying Weapon but its a hint

[ddevans96]

I believe at one point, endowing a creature with negative attack still gave the Crusader positive attack. As far as I know this is still the case, but if you can prove me wrong I'll add it to my guide

[Jenkar]

I know for sure that was wrong at one point, you ended up with -1 crusaders.

[Zerker]

yes his crusaders was -1 attack
i love your deck thank you for that great thing

[Gocubbies1212]

I believe at one point, endowing a creature with negative attack still gave the Crusader positive attack. As far as I know this is still the case, but if you can prove me wrong I'll add it to my guide

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[Bhlewos]

This deck is awesome. Much more fun than CCYB and RoLHope -- slower, but a lot more fun

Lionheart's impossible for me, apart from horrible draws on his part and an early Afla on my part. Jezebel, on the other hand, has been beaten pretty consistently -- I think I've won three out of four games so far.

You really only need to meet three conditions:
1) PA her QTs before she can make too many Nymphs
2) Afla a Nymph while she's unCloaked
3) Draw a Shield in time (Jade Shield preferred, but Perma may be safe if she's used most of her Steals...it's your call. Perma can be better since she'll waste Siphon Lifes, clearing up her hand for a deckout.)

Oftentimes she'll just draw herself to death anyway, if you get early Hourglasses. Try to keep at least one if possible since you'll need to burn through your deck to get the key cards, but her speed-drawing can turn in your favor.



The above was just me being sadistic and waiting till the last turn to OTK her. I could've won with about 6 turns left IIRC. This game she got out a total of five Nymphs btw (including the two who survived).

[onering20]

sorry for necromancy but i saw a variant in the oracle false god counters and i would like to know the upgrade path for this deck

[eaglgenes101]

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This is probably your best bet now that FG's have sped up and SoG's have lost much of their healing. EM's aren't so significant, but if you want them, antimatter the last attacking creature. If you need more initial defense, chuck a QT or a sanct for another antimatter. If you really want those EM's, chuck a sanct for an improved heal.

For upgrade path, you'll want the SN's and the spine carapaces upped before you use the deck (probably with a few more quantum pillars). Then up it in this order: HG's, antimatters, QT's, Aflas (now remove the extra quantum pillars), Vamp dagger, Sancts, Condor, Fractal, Sky Blitz, Chimera, Fire Storm.

[redeyesly]

I just played this for a few hours, and the results were not impressive. I didn't keep stats, but I can guarantee intosis, rol/hope, and poison dials all smoke this as an FG grinder. Many FGs outrushed the wimpy sanc healing, bottom decked both aflas a few times, and no anti-mattered creature ever lived long enough to be of much help. And EMs aren't worth much anyway. So if you're upping cards for FG grinding, this would not be one of my top 3 deck choices.

[Chapuz]

This deck is a little very very outdated and doesn't work like the pre 1.27 times.

[ddevans96]

I just played this for a few hours, and the results were not impressive. I didn't keep stats, but I can guarantee intosis, rol/hope, and poison dials all smoke this as an FG grinder. Many FGs outrushed the wimpy sanc healing, bottom decked both aflas a few times, and no anti-mattered creature ever lived long enough to be of much help. And EMs aren't worth much anyway. So if you're upping cards for FG grinding, this would not be one of my top 3 deck choices.

Assuming you're talking about the deck in the OP, of course it isn't as good now. It's been quite a while since it was used, and even then it was not absolutely the best grinder.

Read threads and especially timestamps please.

[redeyesly]

I did read time stamps, thanks though. And I did use eagles' version, -1 carapace -1 sanc +2 imp heal. My comment was mainly for the guy who asked (today) for an upgrade order.