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Veens Vicious Viotech/ VVV (upgraded FG Killer, for score and electrum, 95% EM) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27598.msg351239#msg351239
« on: June 14, 2011, 05:43:41 pm »
Hello all,

Here I present to you my first FG killer deck: Veens Vicious Viotech, or in short "VVV"

What I like about it is that most of its wins, ~95%, are EM's, so perfect for your score and electrum.

Okay so on to the deck:

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Basically its built upon one combo to finish of your opponent. The combo is done in this order:

Heal -> Condor -> Fractal -> Rain of fire -> Skyblitz -> Chimera.

Ill say right now, that this is the general combo you want to use. Depending on the life of your opponent, you should sometimes play the chimera first, so you get to fractal another condor. Sometimes you will have to use the Chimerad condors to attack twice, using the heal on your second attack to get the EM. And of course there are times when you need the heal earlier, its not a big deal, the EM is still possible, but it gets a little trickier. You then have to use the ice shield and your antimatters to your advantage.

Be creative, there is room for it.

Before all this you obviously have to play your aflatoxin. Also be creative with this one, you have 2, you can use both and you will probably save enough quanta if you play your draws smart. I advise you to draw like a mad man and slow down towards the end to get the quanta. Use your Aflatoxin to get rid of creatures that have more than 3hp, however sometimes your aflatoxin is burrowed in your deck and you'll want the cells fast. Its hard to give any general strategy, because you have to adapt a lot to the FG you are facing and the game you are playing.

Id say you need between 15-21 death quanta to finish your opponent, depending on how much life he has and the amount of <3 hp creatures he has. If you play the general combo, you need 18 death quanta, which gives you 6 condors. If your opponent has 16 creatures with 3 hp or less out, that means your damage is 17 *6= 102 with skyblitz 204. This gives you an idea of how and when to use it. It also shows the importance of the Vampire Dagger.

Maybe I will post a strategy guide in the future, but for now Ill let you figure the rest out. You do need experience with FG's and you do need to invest some time in this deck, because it will not play itself. That said if you manage to master it, almost all your wins can be EM's :)


Max number of Condors = 7, meaning you will cast your chimera upfront. As shown in this picture:


A nice little damage table (its actually quite big :) ), with thanks to Jenkar:
With Rain of Fire, Skyblitz:
Horizontal = Creatures </= 3hp
Vertical   = Condors
1234567891011121314151617181920212223
14681012141618202224262830323436384042444648
2812162024283236404448525660646872768084889296
3121824303642485460667278849096102108114120126132138144
41624324048566472808896104112120128136144152160168176184192
52030405060708090100110120130140150160170180190OTKOTKOTKOTKOTK
624364860728496108120132144156168180192OTKOTKOTKOTKOTKOTKOTKOTK
7284256708498112126140154168182196OTKOTKOTKOTKOTKOTKOTKOTKOTKOTK

Stats:

Stats time :

  deck     VVV   
  players     Jenkar   
  version    1.285 
  win-rate     40,78%   
  $ track ?    enabled 
  win-rate (n)     40,79%   
  games    206 
  Score/h     471   
  win-loss-(EM)     84-122-(67)   
  Score/h (n)    466   
  time (h:m:s)     12:09:11   
  FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  3235   
  min/game     03:32   
  FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  3200   
      Statmasta™4000                                                                *assumed card-spin/win: 35%

  score/h  FGei(c)   Statmasta™4000    wins losses skips EM/Wins
   -796
   67
   -1241
   581
   1075
   -14897
   -100
   361
   -46
   1149
   909
   520
   -844
   -561   
   -572
   1467
   -480
   229
   785
   1240
   1354
   -72
   897
   228
   1064
   -767
   551
   975
   718
   -796
   1872
   -1241
   3188
   4881
   -14897
   817
   2457
   2624
   5591
   4813
   3240
   -844
   -561   
   271
   6542
   -480
   2411
   4327
   6008
   6174
   1871
   4633
   2158
   5042
   -767
   3603
   4575
   4303
Akebono
Chaos Lord
Dark Matter
Decay
Destiny
Divine Glory
Dream Catcher
Elidnis
Eternal Phoenix
Ferox
Fire Queen
Gemini
Graviton
Hecate
Hermes
Incarnate
Jezebel
Lionheart
Miracle
Morte
Neptune
Obliterator
Octane
Osiris
Paradox
Rainbow
Scorpio
Seism
Serket
   
   2
   
   4
   5 
   
   1
   3
   2
   6
   5
   3
   
   
   1
   9
   
   2
   3
   7
   5
   2
   4
   3
   5
   
   6
   3
   3
    6
    7
    3
    3
     
    4
    4
    5
    5
    3
    2
    3
    6
    3
    11
   
    7
    4
    3
    2
    1
    9
    3
    6
   
    10
    8
    1
    3
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
     
     2
     
     3
     4
     
     
     3
     
     6
     3
     2
     
     
     
     8
     
     1
     3
     6
     5
     2
     4
     2
     3
     
     5
     3
     2
  deck     Veen's Vicious Viotech   
  players     Gumbeh   
  version    1.283   
  win-rate     47%   
  $ track ?    enabled 
  win-rate (n)     n.a.   
  games    100 
  Score/h     505   
  win-loss-(EM)     47-53-(29)   
  Score/h (n)    n.a.   
  time (h:m:s)     06:41:38   
  FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  3275   
  min/game     04:01   
  FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  n.a.   
      Statmasta™4000                                                                *assumed card-spin/win: 35%
     
  score/h  FGei(c)   Statmasta™4000    wins losses skips EM/Wins
   -1077
   793
   200
   954
   740
   -7200
   -571
   1394
   262
   418
   567
   805
   -1271
   -549   
   -768
   1363
   451
   -13
   1034
   957
   1358
   217
   330
   437
   1305
   -713
   635
   916
   338
   -1077
   4002
   2912
   4609
   4077
   -7200
   -571
   6108
   2586
   3168
   3165
   4436
   -1271
   -549   
   -768
   5974
   2918
   949
   5340
   4845
   5955
   2178
   3216
   2860
   5721
   -713
   3712
   4460
   3293
Akebono
Chaos Lord
Dark Matter
Decay
Destiny
Divine Glory
Dream Catcher
Elidnis
Eternal Phoenix
Ferox
Fire Queen
Gemini
Graviton
Hecate
Hermes
Incarnate
Jezebel
Lionheart
Miracle
Morte
Neptune
Obliterator
Octane
Osiris
Paradox
Rainbow
Scorpio
Seism
Serket
   
   3
   1
   3
   1 
   
   
   2
   2
   2
   1
   2
   
   
   
   2
   2
   1
   5
   3
   2
   2
   2
   3
   1
   
   4
   2
   1
    4
   
    3
   
    1 
    1
    1
   
    4
    3
   
    2
    1
    3
    3
   
    2
    3
    1
    2
   
    5
    3
    2
   
    4
    3
    1
    1
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
     
     1
     1
     2
     1
     
     
     2
     1
     1
     
     2
     
     
     
     2
     1
     
     2
     3
     2
     2
     
     1
     1
     
     2
     2
     
My own unofficial stats:
     

                                           Wins/Losses     
•   Akebono                            0               2             
•   Chaos Lord                        1               2                   
•   Dark Matter                       1               5                   
•   Decay                               3               1
•   Destiny                             5                  0
•   Divine Glory                      0          4
•   Dream Catcher                  0               6
•   Elidnis                              2          2
•   Eternal Phoenix                 0               1
•   Ferox                               2          1
•   Fire Queen                       2                    3
•   Gemini                             2          1
•   Graviton                           2          1
•   Hecate                             0          1
•   Hermes                            2          3
•   Incarnate                         3          1
•   Jezebel                            1          4
•   Lionheart                         1          4
•   Miracle                             3          2
•   Morte                              4                    0
•   Neptune                          2                    0
•   Oblititerator                    0                     1
•   Octane                           3                 2
•   Osiris                             0                    0
•   Paradox                          5                    0
•   Rainbow                         0                        5
•   Scorpio                          3                 1
•   Seism                            1                 1
•   Serket                            2                 2


50 wins - 56 losses. Though you shouldnt even waste your time with Divine Glory, Rainbow and Dream Catcher. If you take these out, you end up with:

50 wins - 41 losses.



« Last Edit: June 14, 2012, 05:18:01 pm by willng3 »

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Re: Veens Vicious Viotech/ VVV (upgraded FG Killer, for score and electrum, 95% EM) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27598.msg351332#msg351332
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2011, 08:34:45 pm »
Why the dagger as opposed to the more popular in FG decks pulverizer
I suppose it is to get that last SoG Effect, but why not use a real SoG, in place of a QT or PA!

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Re: Veens Vicious Viotech/ VVV (upgraded FG Killer, for score and electrum, 95% EM) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27598.msg351348#msg351348
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2011, 08:49:22 pm »
It has 2 functions:

1: To add in healing (for just 2 quanta, you can play it whenever giving you 6 healing, depending on shields of course)
2: To get some initial damage, which is very useful, if you cant max out your combo at the end. (due to whatever reasons, find out for yourself :))

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Re: Veens Vicious Viotech/ VVV (upgraded FG Killer, for score and electrum, 95% EM) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27598.msg351399#msg351399
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2011, 09:36:46 pm »
Frankly, I'm surprised at the productivity of this deck, and I'll have fun using it in the days to come.
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Re: Veens Vicious Viotech/ VVV (upgraded FG Killer, for score and electrum, 95% EM) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27598.msg351631#msg351631
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2011, 09:25:43 am »
this reminds me off my deck and the condor. ... nothing special in this one.
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Re: Veens Vicious Viotech/ VVV (upgraded FG Killer, for score and electrum, 95% EM) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27598.msg351637#msg351637
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2011, 10:51:44 am »
Just put a LS to make sure you EM no ?
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Re: Veens Vicious Viotech/ VVV (upgraded FG Killer, for score and electrum, 95% EM) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27598.msg351652#msg351652
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2011, 12:37:13 pm »
Just put a LS to make sure you EM no ?
No, because that leaves you with 1 less condor.

@ Xnoize, Its a shame you find it nothing special, I have put a lot of work into it. Maybe you should try it.

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Re: Veens Vicious Viotech/ VVV (upgraded FG Killer, for score and electrum, 95% EM) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27598.msg351732#msg351732
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2011, 03:28:01 pm »
Why aren't the first 4 cards upped? Are they better that way (for a reason unknown to me) or did you just not have the electrum needed?

Nice deck, by the way.

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Re: Veens Vicious Viotech/ VVV (upgraded FG Killer, for score and electrum, 95% EM) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27598.msg351741#msg351741
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2011, 03:54:26 pm »
Deck is good.  Slow, with a winrate about equivalent to some faster FG decks, so not going on my list of killer FG decks, but it's quite fun and rewarding to pull off the combo at the end. :)
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Re: Veens Vicious Viotech/ VVV (upgraded FG Killer, for score and electrum, 95% EM) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27598.msg351745#msg351745
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2011, 04:04:36 pm »
95% EM rate is good, but do you have any winrate??

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Re: Veens Vicious Viotech/ VVV (upgraded FG Killer, for score and electrum, 95% EM) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27598.msg351754#msg351754
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2011, 04:26:26 pm »
Why aren't the first 4 cards upped? Are they better that way (for a reason unknown to me) or did you just not have the electrum needed?

Nice deck, by the way.
Thank you :) No I didnt have them upped and since you will always have the quanta to play them, you can leave them unupped.

95% EM rate is good, but do you have any winrate??
I have posted stats at the end of the post.

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Re: Veens Vicious Viotech/ VVV (upgraded FG Killer, for score and electrum, 95% EM) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27598.msg351757#msg351757
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2011, 04:28:51 pm »
Deck is good.  Slow, with a winrate about equivalent to some faster FG decks, so not going on my list of killer FG decks, but it's quite fun and rewarding to pull off the combo at the end. :)
It looks slow, but really its faster than CCYB, because you can draw heavily.

And thank you :)

 

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