Vampire's Holy Navy [Light] [Water] [Darkness]

[Calindu]

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[RavingRabbid]

It... seems to be working. The concept makes sense. I'll give it a go.

[laxnut90]

Yes, moved, if you want your topic moved, the best way to get it moved is by reporting your post and asking to get moved.

Thank you for moving it.

[Acab Jef]

why not unupped animate weapons, since you do not use the air quanta.
if you use upped there is a chance you lose some needed quanta

[Pella]

Either I'm doing something horribly wrong, or the RNG hates me more than usual today.

I used unupped Flying Weapons for reasons stated above.  I substituted 1 unupped Crusader and 3 unupped Shards of Patience because I don't have enough of those cards in upgraded form right now.  This is the resulting deck:

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 5j2 5j2 5j2 5ll 5oi 5oi 5oi 5ur 5ur 5ur 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7k5 7k5 7k5 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 8pp

My first ten duels in the Platinum League resulted in a record of 1-9, which is a very long way from your 9-6.  I have difficulty believing that 4 unupped cards made that kind of difference.

First Ten Duels:
Loss - Reverse Time
Loss - my own Arena deck
Loss - RT + Ghostmare
Win  - mono-Life
Loss - Pulvy + BB
Loss - Procrastination + RT + Ghostmare
Loss - mono-Aether - Silence on first 2 turns, then as often as possible
Loss - deckout b/c Miracles
Loss - Ulitharid x2
Loss - mono-Air

[Acab Jef]

Either I'm doing something horribly wrong, or the RNG hates me more than usual today.

I used unupped Flying Weapons for reasons stated above.  I substituted 1 unupped Crusader and 3 unupped Shards of Patience because I don't have enough of those cards in upgraded form right now.  This is the resulting deck:

Spoiler for Pella's Vampire's Holy Navy:

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 5j2 5j2 5j2 5ll 5oi 5oi 5oi 5ur 5ur 5ur 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7k5 7k5 7k5 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 8pp

My first ten duels in the Platinum League resulted in a record of 1-9, which is a very long way from your 9-6.  I have difficulty believing that 4 unupped cards made that kind of difference.

First Ten Duels:
Loss - Reverse Time
Loss - my own Arena deck
Loss - RT + Ghostmare
Win  - mono-Life
Loss - Pulvy + BB
Loss - Procrastination + RT + Ghostmare
Loss - mono-Aether - Silence on first 2 turns, then as often as possible
Loss - deckout b/c Miracles
Loss - Ulitharid x2
Loss - mono-Air

the deck should have about the same results as the normal deck, but the games you played(10) are not that high, you need te play at least 100 games before you have more real stats. my arena farm decks sometimes win 10 times in a row and sometimes lose 10 times(RNG). you can have bad luck with opponents, the decks in arena are the counters of your deck, this is annoying, go play an other farm deck to get your counters out, then switch back to this deck till the counters are back in, and so on. I don't know if the stats you have are still real, because you change decks, but you win the most games.

[Pella]

go play an other farm deck to get your counters out, then switch back to this deck till the counters are back in

This statement makes absolutely no sense to me.

#1)  The Plat League has a large number of these types of decks.  I don't think I played the same deck twice.
#2)  If I understand the process correctly, your Arena opponent is chosen at random when you enter the Arena duel.

By itself, #2 is enough to negate the concept of "playing through" the counter decks.  Adding #1 makes an already impossible task even more impossible.

I've now played a total of 31 duels with this deck against the Plat League.  My record is 6-25.

Spoiler for record of duels 11-31:

Win  - mono-Air - Perfect timing for Sundials
Loss - Shard of Void + Light Nymph spam .. Got AI down to 2HP on the last turn before I died.
Loss - Congeal + Maxwell's (endowed Crusader)
Loss - Lightning on all early RoL + Procrastination
Loss - RT + Ghostmare
Loss - Bone Wall + Shard of Focus
Loss - RT + Scarabs + SoF + never drew Flying Weapon (SoF would destroy Stilleto)
Loss - Shard of Sacrifice
Loss - CC spam + SoF spam
Loss - RT + Pandemonium + Lobotomizer + SoF + AI had tons of creatures
Loss - Black Hole spam + Pulvy
Loss - Arctic Squid spam + AI SoP
Loss - Ghostmare + stole SoP
Win  - RoL/Hope
Win  - Light stall - FIRST EM!
Win  - mono-Time w/ 42HP - SECOND EM!
Loss - SoF spam prevented using Sundials
Loss - AI stole Sundials and SoP
Loss - RT
Win  - RT + Scarabs + (Pharoahs + SoR) - I'm very surprised I won this one, actually, because I went through two-thirds of the deck before I saw my first Vampire Stilleto.
Loss - Pulvy + Mutation + Sanctuary

[Acab Jef]

go play an other farm deck to get your counters out, then switch back to this deck till the counters are back in

This statement makes absolutely no sense to me.

#1)  The Plat League has a large number of these types of decks.  I don't think I played the same deck twice.
#2)  If I understand the process correctly, your Arena opponent is chosen at random when you enter the Arena duel.

By itself, #2 is enough to negate the concept of "playing through" the counter decks.  Adding #1 makes an already impossible task even more impossible.

I've now played a total of 31 duels with this deck against the Plat League.  My record is 6-25.

Spoiler for record of duels 11-31:

Win  - mono-Air - Perfect timing for Sundials
Loss - Shard of Void + Light Nymph spam .. Got AI down to 2HP on the last turn before I died.
Loss - Congeal + Maxwell's (endowed Crusader)
Loss - Lightning on all early RoL + Procrastination
Loss - RT + Ghostmare
Loss - Bone Wall + Shard of Focus
Loss - RT + Scarabs + SoF + never drew Flying Weapon (SoF would destroy Stilleto)
Loss - Shard of Sacrifice
Loss - CC spam + SoF spam
Loss - RT + Pandemonium + Lobotomizer + SoF + AI had tons of creatures
Loss - Black Hole spam + Pulvy
Loss - Arctic Squid spam + AI SoP
Loss - Ghostmare + stole SoP
Win  - RoL/Hope
Win  - Light stall - FIRST EM!
Win  - mono-Time w/ 42HP - SECOND EM!
Loss - SoF spam prevented using Sundials
Loss - AI stole Sundials and SoP
Loss - RT
Win  - RT + Scarabs + (Pharoahs + SoR) - I'm very surprised I won this one, actually, because I went through two-thirds of the deck before I saw my first Vampire Stilleto.
Loss - Pulvy + Mutation + Sanctuary

i know what you mean, but i farm more gold(because i do not have a good deck to farm plat wih a higher final spin(3x win) rate then i get with gold).
you got those days where you fight a lot of rainbow decks(pestal counter) and some days there are almost none. when there are almost no rainbow/SN decks i use just pestal deck. when i only find rainbow i stop playing the pestal deck because it loses almost every game. not saying there are only rainbow decks, but if there are a lot of people using the same stragtegy the counter wins and stays in the top 500(your opponents) so if there are 500 games played with 350 of them pestal or some other deck, the counter is in the top 500 not the RNG. and of course the new decks must be in your luck too.

short: the arena is not completly random, the arena are counters of farm decks(useally). these are the decks that last long, if you have an other deck in the arena the deck gets farmed out. if you play the arena for a few hours(50-100 games) you should see what decks are more common then others.

[Asinickle]

Either I'm doing something horribly wrong, or the RNG hates me more than usual today.

I used unupped Flying Weapons for reasons stated above.  I substituted 1 unupped Crusader and 3 unupped Shards of Patience because I don't have enough of those cards in upgraded form right now.  This is the resulting deck:

Spoiler for Pella's Vampire's Holy Navy:

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 5j2 5j2 5j2 5ll 5oi 5oi 5oi 5ur 5ur 5ur 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7k5 7k5 7k5 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 8pp

My first ten duels in the Platinum League resulted in a record of 1-9, which is a very long way from your 9-6.  I have difficulty believing that 4 unupped cards made that kind of difference.

First Ten Duels:
Loss - Reverse Time
Loss - my own Arena deck
Loss - RT + Ghostmare
Win  - mono-Life
Loss - Pulvy + BB
Loss - Procrastination + RT + Ghostmare
Loss - mono-Aether - Silence on first 2 turns, then as often as possible
Loss - deckout b/c Miracles
Loss - Ulitharid x2
Loss - mono-Air

I have this deck all upped and tested a similar win rate.

[Pella]

I have this deck all upped and tested a similar win rate.

Similar to my win rate, or similar to the win rate in the OP?

[laxnut90]

Either I'm doing something horribly wrong, or the RNG hates me more than usual today.

I used unupped Flying Weapons for reasons stated above.  I substituted 1 unupped Crusader and 3 unupped Shards of Patience because I don't have enough of those cards in upgraded form right now.  This is the resulting deck:

Spoiler for Pella's Vampire's Holy Navy:

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 5j2 5j2 5j2 5ll 5oi 5oi 5oi 5ur 5ur 5ur 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7k5 7k5 7k5 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 8pp

My first ten duels in the Platinum League resulted in a record of 1-9, which is a very long way from your 9-6.  I have difficulty believing that 4 unupped cards made that kind of difference.

First Ten Duels:
Loss - Reverse Time
Loss - my own Arena deck
Loss - RT + Ghostmare
Win  - mono-Life
Loss - Pulvy + BB
Loss - Procrastination + RT + Ghostmare
Loss - mono-Aether - Silence on first 2 turns, then as often as possible
Loss - deckout b/c Miracles
Loss - Ulitharid x2
Loss - mono-Air

I got crushed in the arena today too.  my ratio is now 10-10, not 9-6.

I think I need to change some things to ensure my draws are better.

[Asinickle]

I have this deck all upped and tested a similar win rate.

Similar to my win rate, or similar to the win rate in the OP?

Similar to yours. Even 10-10 sounds incredibly improbable; that'd be higher than any of the other top decks against the arena at the moment.