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netjak

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Unupgraded mutation speed rainbow rush of awesomeness! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8899.msg104475#msg104475
« on: June 30, 2010, 08:26:58 am »
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works well, manage to throw out an elf and a couple useful creatures by second turn most of the time, Obviously would be better with some of the cards upgraded, but you can tweak it however you like. Strategy is mutate creatures who are weak, or if you don't have the quanta to use the ability anymore, whatever suits the situation.

Never lost to a3 and works great in pvp :)


And as i said, people say I should use certain things in the deck,
You can tweak it however you like. This is just my version.
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Re: Unupgraded mutation speed rainbow rush of awesomeness! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8899.msg104485#msg104485
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2010, 09:06:38 am »
Why don't you use Sparks and RoLS? Also, you're a bit entropy heavy.

netjak

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Re: Unupgraded mutation speed rainbow rush of awesomeness! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8899.msg104492#msg104492
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2010, 09:38:51 am »
I think the discord's scramble effect gives you enough time to gain the entropy lost by playing it, but arsenic might be a better choice.

Also from experience i seem to get garbage mutations from sparks and rol's and much better results by mutating creatures with pre-existing abilities.

hrmmm

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Re: Unupgraded mutation speed rainbow rush of awesomeness! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8899.msg104510#msg104510
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2010, 10:39:25 am »
I think the discord's scramble effect gives you enough time to gain the entropy lost by playing it, but arsenic might be a better choice. ...
the chances of getting the discord in your starting hand arent that good. and if your decks survive ability depends on that discord, one is not enough.

... Also from experience i seem to get garbage mutations from sparks and rol's and much better results by mutating creatures with pre-existing abilities.
thats a rumor. i dont think zanzarino wrote the mutant-script with a "precheck-if-there-are some-skills-before". why the hell should he?


netjak

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Re: Unupgraded mutation speed rainbow rush of awesomeness! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8899.msg104519#msg104519
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2010, 11:13:24 am »
In regards to the discord, The deck does not depend on it whatsoever. Its just a good card,,

And the point of the deck is playing low cost creatures with useful abilities and cumulative damage, as well as drawing out all creature control,  that can sit there doing something before you get a chance to mutate them, unlike sparks and rol's that do absolutely nothing but sit in your hand while your elf's die as you play them.

Also, mutating the creatures with abilities DOES seem to get better results then sparks or photons, I've done mutate a thousand times. There is a definite difference.

hrmmm

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Re: Unupgraded mutation speed rainbow rush of awesomeness! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8899.msg104547#msg104547
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2010, 12:51:47 pm »
dont get me wrong. looks like a funny pvp 1 deck.
i like your idea that the squishes you are mutating, have skills and can do a bit damage.

but if your opponent have a bit cc he will destroy your mutation table, if its a photon or a elf or a mind flyer.

agree with bluesky. seems a bit entropy heavy. maybe replace 1 elf?

my suggestions you may test:

-1 elf, -1 forest spirit, - phase spider
+ 1 quantum pillar, + 1 graviton fire eater, +1 mind flayer

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Also, mutating the creatures with abilities DOES seem to get better results then sparks or photons, I've done mutate a thousand times. There is a definite difference.
"does seem" isnt a "definite difference". i have seen enough mutations to fairly doubt this "theory".
*cough*chaos lords evil 16/8 dive dragons  :-*







Celidion

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Re: Unupgraded mutation speed rainbow rush of awesomeness! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8899.msg104578#msg104578
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2010, 02:32:43 pm »
dont get me wrong. looks like a funny pvp 1 deck.
i like your idea that the squishes you are mutating, have skills and can do a bit damage.

but if your opponent have a bit cc he will destroy your mutation table, if its a photon or a elf or a mind flyer.

agree with bluesky. seems a bit entropy heavy. maybe replace 1 elf?

my suggestions you may test:

-1 elf, -1 forest spirit, - phase spider
+ 1 quantum pillar, + 1 graviton fire eater, +1 mind flayer

...
Also, mutating the creatures with abilities DOES seem to get better results then sparks or photons, I've done mutate a thousand times. There is a definite difference.
"does seem" isnt a "definite difference". i have seen enough mutations to fairly doubt this "theory".
*cough*chaos lords evil 16/8 dive dragons  :-*
*Offtopic* those really kill RoL/Hope when they come out in the 2nd-3rd turn


Anyway, I like the deck but as others have mentioned you should remove 1 druid.

wavedash

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Re: Unupgraded mutation speed rainbow rush of awesomeness! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8899.msg105167#msg105167
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2010, 04:21:41 am »
Fallen Elves kind of need to be upgraded. Replacing some Elves with Quintessences might work out well.

Also, Sparks and Photons are more efficient. And none of this "better mutants" crap, it's simply not true, whether you like it or not.

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Re: Unupgraded mutation speed rainbow rush of awesomeness! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8899.msg117209#msg117209
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2010, 03:40:17 am »
I liked the idea of the deck, but started to upgrade it almost immediately.  I've been playing around with T50 and it works better if you have some fallen druids.  I made some changes, like the Fog shield, added a shard, went with vampire stilleto instead of discord (debating pulverizer), added an elite oty...

(http://imageplay.net/view/m7Gbd74575/t50mutant)

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Xelax

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Re: Unupgraded mutation speed rainbow rush of awesomeness! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8899.msg117814#msg117814
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2010, 12:55:57 am »
What creatures are you supposed to mutate? The Rustlers get you life quanta for mutations, and you get the light quanta come from the Fire Fly. If you're going to mutate the creatures regardless, why bother using creatures with abilities? You could have a whole deck of Deja vus or something else cheap. All the creatures in this deck you could argue to keep, and then you end up with very little.

Mntoothpick

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Re: Unupgraded mutation speed rainbow rush of awesomeness! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8899.msg118693#msg118693
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2010, 01:43:38 am »
K, I changed the deck slightly:

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You can also substitute a fire buckler for fog shield and minor phoenix for fire spirit.  I played around with one immolation instead of a nova, but results were pretty mixed.

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It works fantastic on L3. 

(It's also okay on T50).

Once in a while you get a bad draw.  Not very often.  I would discard firefly first in that case or if you have 2 fallen druids one of them because entropy takes a long time to develop, esp. with supernovas...

As for which cards to mutate, I go elite deja vu, firefly, leaf dragons as primary.  If you have oty and boneyard, its great cause you can up your oty by eating your own creatures and then mutate the skeletons.

(Only advantage to firebuckler over fog is really when boneyard is in play).

Re: Unupgraded mutation speed rainbow rush of awesomeness! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8899.msg195495#msg195495
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2010, 02:30:50 am »
...Also from experience i seem to get garbage mutations from sparks and rol's and much better results by mutating creatures with pre-existing abilities.
Guess you're just unlucky, I always get super pwning mutants like  Aether Nymphs with unlimited Deja Vu or Shriekers that gain 2/2 HP with every  :water.

 

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