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Those heavy rage inflicting dunes... (A balenced nurotoxin deck. Whaaaat?) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53911.msg1128150#msg1128150
« on: March 01, 2014, 04:54:46 am »
Ok. This guy deserves so much credit, THANK YOU GOMORYCUT! I put in 30 games on trainer, and then gave him a pretty rough deck to balance with it being nurotoxin and all. Told him what I generically wanted the deck to do, but then had edited it up a lot so it didnt do what I wanted but did better as a deck as time went on.

But Gomory had looked at it, took it and played with it, told me everything I needed to know about the deck because I couldnt use it against the current metagame because I have no plate armors and am low on rage elixers. Then he told me replacements of about 5-6 cards. I created a 2nd version, and he then told me how to optimize that one after using it for a bit, then used it some more and told me which one he thought was best. The guy seriously rocks.

So after 3 hours of discussion about this deck, here it is!
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Possible modifications: -1plate armor +1 sofo. Yup, thats it! :P EDIT: Improved heal for plate armor works too. If you don't do sofo, -1 rage +1 unstoppable. Thnx Gandora and others for probing me so much about unstoppable. I had originally suggested it towards gomory but it was a shot down idea. I guess gomory was a little bias there where he loved being able to play the rage elixer in different ways. More so a preference thing, as its 1/30 of a deck without draw power it wont matter much over a lot of games.
When trying out other possible modifications we found this version the best, and didn't really have a preference or opinion between a plate armor and an sofo.

Poison kind of hits through shields anyway (as long as you get in one hit beforehand), so PC didn't really matter. But for the annoying weapons and permanents like sanctuary we just found sofo was good. Not to mention its worth BH against rainbows, and can act as rage elixir fodder after the combo+twin universe if your finding yourself low on plate armors. T

his deck can be played very versatile like with plate armor, rage elixirs, (sofo), TU, and nightmare. It offers so much versatility which is the key to victory with this deck. You can pull off some pretty smart moves with this deck! The quanta balance we found hard to handle, and that changing it did weird undesirable things to the deck.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2014, 02:22:01 am by BrandenC6 »
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Re: Those heavy rage inflicting dunes... (A balenced nurotoxin deck. Whaaaat?) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53911.msg1128202#msg1128202
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2014, 03:48:44 pm »
Cool deck, except I keep having a hard time starting the combo. You need quanta, plate, and rage for it to work... still, nice deck idea.

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Re: Those heavy rage inflicting dunes... (A balenced nurotoxin deck. Whaaaat?) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53911.msg1128212#msg1128212
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2014, 04:19:56 pm »
Cool deck, except I keep having a hard time starting the combo. You need quanta, plate, and rage for it to work... still, nice deck idea.
I get the combo out by the 3rd turn at least on around 80% of my games. :/
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Re: Those heavy rage inflicting dunes... (A balenced nurotoxin deck. Whaaaat?) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53911.msg1128258#msg1128258
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2014, 06:46:33 pm »
Are 3 Dunes enough? 'Cause you won't really start to do damage unless you got one to buff..

What I'd do:
-1 Plate + 1 EA
-1 Rage+ 1 Momentum (allows to start poisoning without plate)
-1 Tower + 1 Dune
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Re: Those heavy rage inflicting dunes... (A balenced nurotoxin deck. Whaaaat?) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53911.msg1128294#msg1128294
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2014, 01:50:01 am »
Are 3 Dunes enough? 'Cause you won't really start to do damage unless you got one to buff..

What I'd do:
-1 Plate + 1 EA
-1 Rage+ 1 Momentum (allows to start poisoning without plate)
-1 Tower + 1 Dune
Ill play out ~20 games or until I can get a feel for it with this set up and just see how I feel about it. Of course this is the subjective part. Do note that rage elixers can be played with versatility, unlike unstoppable. Ill also try another ~20 disreguarding the enchant artifact idea because I dont think its worth it for a couple of towers or the 1 fog shield in the deck.

EDIT: So I found the unstoppable actually good. Actually helpful. It can get by shields and stuff, but I dont think its more worth it then sofo. And in a little little sample I found the protect artifact definitly not worth it, even if it could protect one of your sundials. I just found that I wouldnt wait for the PA in any game once I had fog shield. maybe in a draw power deck it would be worth it where you have only 1 copy of a permanent thats worth protecting, works against nymph tear decks too but.. :/. Also found the tower for a dune a 50/50 idea. Usually an extra tower meant the difference between getting a (SN or fire quanta) to power rage elixer. Youll have that dune more often in your starting hand then before, but not worth it to the extent where you cant power the rage elixer. I think -1 rage +1 unstoppable is worth it. Also you said -1 to both plate and rage, so your not gonna get the combo out more then my way because youve -2 of the combo cards and -1 of the quanta production.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2014, 02:18:24 am by BrandenC6 »
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