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Tahamed

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The ULTIMATE False God killing deck!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=132.msg1957#msg1957
« Reply #84 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:34 pm »

What would you guys think about adding another Miracle into this deck?

Scaredgirl

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The ULTIMATE False God killing deck!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=132.msg1958#msg1958
« Reply #85 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:34 pm »

interesting... can you lobotomize/mutate/eat a frozen creature?
You can damage (Eagle's Eye etc.) and lobotomize a frozen creature. I'm not sure if you can eat them and I'm pretty sure you cannot mutate them.

EDIT: You CAN eat frozen creatures and probably also mutate them.

Scaredgirl

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The ULTIMATE False God killing deck!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=132.msg1959#msg1959
« Reply #86 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:34 pm »

What would you guys think about adding another Miracle into this deck?
I have only one so I cannot test it. 2 Miracle's might help against Scorpio but sometimes you get killed before you have time to collect that 12 white quantum needed. Especially if you use Sundials.

Try it.

Tahamed

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The ULTIMATE False God killing deck!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=132.msg1960#msg1960
« Reply #87 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:34 pm »

What would you guys think about adding another Miracle into this deck?
I have only one so I cannot test it. 2 Miracle's might help against Scorpio but sometimes you get killed before you have time to collect that 12 white quantum needed. Especially if you use Sundials.

Try it.
Tried it for a few games against Lvl 3s and gods. Doesn't do THAT much difference. But it is good to have a backup. And there was only one time I used both of them... But I'm gonna keep both of them on my deck. I could try 3 or 4 miracles too but I think that would be a bit too much so I'll just stick with 2.

Scaredgirl

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The ULTIMATE False God killing deck!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=132.msg1961#msg1961
« Reply #88 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:34 pm »

What would you guys think about adding another Miracle into this deck?
I have only one so I cannot test it. 2 Miracle's might help against Scorpio but sometimes you get killed before you have time to collect that 12 white quantum needed. Especially if you use Sundials.

Try it.
Tried it for a few games against Lvl 3s and gods. Doesn't do THAT much difference. But it is good to have a backup. And there was only one time I used both of them... But I'm gonna keep both of them on my deck. I could try 3 or 4 miracles too but I think that would be a bit too much so I'll just stick with 2.
Yeah I think 3-4 Miracles would be a bit too much. :)

Biggest problem with Miracle is that it uses white quantum. If a False God starts aggressively, you might not be able to collect that 12 quantum needed before he kills you. Especially if you use Sundials early on. I've lost matches where I have had miracle in hand but I had 10-11 white quantum. That is so annoying.

Tahamed

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The ULTIMATE False God killing deck!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=132.msg1962#msg1962
« Reply #89 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:34 pm »

It's 12 quantum for you >_<

I haven't upgraded any of mine... Can't afford upgrades xD I only upgraded 3 of my Hourglasses.

brain9h

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« Reply #90 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:34 pm »

I've upgraded mine and it makes a huge difference

Kaythal

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« Reply #91 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:34 pm »

1. Miracle with upgraded Sundials is a suicide. Atm I only have 2 Supernovas (and 4 normal), but in early-mid game i'm rarely at more than 10 Light quanta, while if I survive the mid and start to control I don't need another heal.

2. If you have problems with Scorpio or Morte add 1 Purify: after I added it my chances (yes i'm keeping track of all my games since i made this deck) went from 20% to 100% for Morte and from 15% to 80% against Scorpio (I did only 8 and 10 games against those after the add though). Sure adding a card makes it harder against faster decks like Hermes, Gemini and Rainbow, but atm (my deck is not yet fully upgraded) i think it's worth: Gemini is usually not a problem, while Rainbow and Hermes f*ck me pretty bad almost always anyway.

Scaredgirl

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The ULTIMATE False God killing deck!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=132.msg1965#msg1965
« Reply #92 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:34 pm »

1. Miracle with upgraded Sundials is a suicide. Atm I only have 2 Supernovas (and 4 normal), but in early-mid game i'm rarely at more than 10 Light quanta, while if I survive the mid and start to control I don't need another heal.

2. If you have problems with Scorpio or Morte add 1 Purify: after I added it my chances (yes i'm keeping track of all my games since i made this deck) went from 20% to 100% for Morte and from 15% to 80% against Scorpio (I did only 8 and 10 games against those after the add though). Sure adding a card makes it harder against faster decks like Hermes, Gemini and Rainbow, but atm (my deck is not yet fully upgraded) i think it's worth: Gemini is usually not a problem, while Rainbow and Hermes f*ck me pretty bad almost always anyway.
You shouldn't upgrade Sundials. Cost of 2 white quantum for each extra card draw is too much early in the game. Sundials work much better as unupgraded.

I did try a variation where I had mark of Light and upgraded Sundials. But it didn't work as as well as mark of Time with unupgraded Sundials.

Kaythal

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The ULTIMATE False God killing deck!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=132.msg2294#msg2294
« Reply #93 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:35 pm »

I didn't upgraded them but thought you had (looking at your picture),
Still, i'm rarely above 10 light quanta and for the 7 games i did with Miracle in the deck (yes 7 are not much, but...) he was NEVER of any use: thus i decided to remove it and i didn't regret my choice, yet.

Scaredgirl

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The ULTIMATE False God killing deck!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=132.msg2295#msg2295
« Reply #94 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:35 pm »

I didn't upgraded them but thought you had (looking at your picture),
Still, i'm rarely above 10 light quanta and for the 7 games i did with Miracle in the deck (yes 7 are not much, but...) he was NEVER of any use: thus i decided to remove it and i didn't regret my choice, yet.
Miracle is most useful against Scorpio. But even then you might not get the card because you only have one in deck. And if you do, you might not be able to use it. So yeah, it's not as good as I first thought. But it has saved me a couple of times and sometimes it helps with getting that elemental mastery.

brain9h

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The ULTIMATE False God killing deck!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=132.msg2296#msg2296
« Reply #95 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:35 pm »

Yesterday I upgraded the dimensional shields to phase shields (costing 1 less quanta), and my bone walls too (costing 2 less quanta each) and the difference is HUGE

 

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