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Re: The Shutdown! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg103473#msg103473
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2010, 03:04:37 am »
Hm?

Oh, I was simply posting a similar deck that had already been made.  The original post made it seem like one didn't.

If the main point of the EE is just to deal damage, than an eternity is probably better.  While you may be short on time quanta, it'll reverse his creatures, plugging up his hand, and further lock down his deck.  Plus, you can ensure the wrong cards are drawn, and prevent deck outs.

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Re: The Shutdown! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg103512#msg103512
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2010, 03:45:21 am »
Hm?

Oh, I was simply posting a similar deck that had already been made.  The original post made it seem like one didn't.

If the main point of the EE is just to deal damage, than an eternity is probably better.  While you may be short on time quanta, it'll reverse his creatures, plugging up his hand, and further lock down his deck.  Plus, you can ensure the wrong cards are drawn, and prevent deck outs.
I'm not really sure how similar your deck is to this one.  A mono entropy deck that was designed to be a false god killer deck?

I had an eternity in this deck but it can't support an hour glass and eternity and I can't determine which is better.

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Re: The Shutdown! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg103573#msg103573
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2010, 05:17:30 am »
About your similarity point: they're both control decks, based around locking down quanta and keeping it that way.

From fiddling with a control deck, it can be pretty frustrating having now ability to draw cards when you need them.  At the same time a control deck is not going to get into control before any creatures are played.  You need some way to deal with them on a massive scale.  Eagles Eyes is a good idea, don't get me wrong, but I'm worried that it won't be fast enough for things like graboid rushes and fractal rushes.

That being said, the extra card draw is pretty vital to stay on top of some of the faster decks...

Seeing as you're perfecting the deck, I would make at least one of the cards added creature control.  Seeing as it's a control deck, and you're facing some damage problems, perhaps try pandemonium?  It'll generally shut down most creatures, and no matter what happens, it's good for you.  With mark of entropy, it shouldn't tax you too much...  And with novas, things like ice bolts and drain lifes might actually be buffed.  I'd throw in pandemonium, discord, and maybe a gravity nymph if you have one.  Antimatter might also be good.

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Re: The Shutdown! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg103681#msg103681
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2010, 12:22:27 pm »
Would have been funny to see flying tridents. XD

Now I'm no expert at decks, but could you try flipping in a firestorm in there to shut down any succeeding creatures that get through? Maybe even an Arctic squid somewhere there? Hell even an elite otyugh.
Just my thoughts. Because if any creatures get through (like it would happen anyway) then there should be a way to deal with it.

Another idea, how about some SoD / Granite skin? Just so any succeeding creatures have extra HP to chew through?

@G|1tch: What if you try placing a gravity nymph in there with an SoR? Free quanta drain. Sounds good to me. =D

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Re: The Shutdown! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg103718#msg103718
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2010, 02:13:51 pm »
Would have been funny to see flying tridents. XD

Now I'm no expert at decks, but could you try flipping in a firestorm in there to shut down any succeeding creatures that get through? Maybe even an Arctic squid somewhere there? Hell even an elite otyugh.
Just my thoughts. Because if any creatures get through (like it would happen anyway) then there should be a way to deal with it.

Another idea, how about some SoD / Granite skin? Just so any succeeding creatures have extra HP to chew through?

@G|1tch: What if you try placing a gravity nymph in there with an SoR? Free quanta drain. Sounds good to me. =D
I don't have a gravity nymph otherwise i would definitely add it.

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Re: The Shutdown! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg103763#msg103763
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2010, 03:39:40 pm »
Would have been funny to see flying tridents. XD

Now I'm no expert at decks, but could you try flipping in a firestorm in there to shut down any succeeding creatures that get through? Maybe even an Arctic squid somewhere there? Hell even an elite otyugh.
Just my thoughts. Because if any creatures get through (like it would happen anyway) then there should be a way to deal with it.

Another idea, how about some SoD / Granite skin? Just so any succeeding creatures have extra HP to chew through?

@G|1tch: What if you try placing a gravity nymph in there with an SoR? Free quanta drain. Sounds good to me. =D


I don't have a gravity nymph otherwise i would definitely add it.
That's why the IF was in there. XP
I don't even have one nymph. lol

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Re: The Shutdown! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg108763#msg108763
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2010, 03:42:44 am »
add discord, animate, and mirror shield imho

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Re: The Shutdown! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg109516#msg109516
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2010, 02:56:48 am »
add discord, animate, and mirror shield imho
Why mirror shield?  I see the reasoning behind the other two.

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Re: The Shutdown! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg115353#msg115353
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2010, 09:06:21 pm »
Hmm, I like this deck but it could use some major changes xD.

The changes come mainly by the fact that, well, you have a TON of overlap. The overlap is in the quicksand and in the explosions. So, in the end I did this:

(Basing it off of Version One): -2 Explosions, -2 Quick Sand, -1 Permafrost Shield.

Reasons: You have an infinite amount of explosions in your Butterfly Effect and that goes for Quick Sand too. The shield I found was just unneeded really, since you had already shut the person down by the time the shield comes in to play.

I added: +1 Poseidon, +1 Butterfly Effect, +2 Rewinds (Not sure about that >< You can change that up if you want.), +1 Fire Storm.

Poseidon is just to rush earthquake the opponent and Butterfly effect is to rush destroy. You should have alteast 2 butterfly effects because once you earthquake'd the opponent to death, you can butterfly a pest and switch to Eagle's Eye. Any new pillars will be destroyed by the pest.

The Rewinds were just because I wanted more CC. Sometimes the opponent gets out an early (in my case) Arctic Squid or Ulitharid so I just wanted to put 2 cards for CC. Switch from Rewind if you want.

Lastly, because the explosions are gone, you now have enough quanta for fire storm! Yay... xD.
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And yeah xD I like this deck and it's a quick shut down indeed ;)


EDIT: XD Yeah, I switched to Shockwaves instead. >< Rewinds weren't doing much. xD
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Re: The Shutdown! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg116499#msg116499
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2010, 01:16:44 am »
The update is only 27 cards.

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Re: The Shutdown! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg116506#msg116506
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2010, 01:24:48 am »
Hmm, I like this deck but it could use some major changes xD.

The changes come mainly by the fact that, well, you have a TON of overlap. The overlap is in the quicksand and in the explosions. So, in the end I did this:

(Basing it off of Version One): -2 Explosions, -2 Quick Sand, -1 Permafrost Shield.

Reasons: You have an infinite amount of explosions in your Butterfly Effect and that goes for Quick Sand too. The shield I found was just unneeded really, since you had already shut the person down by the time the shield comes in to play.

I added: +1 Poseidon, +1 Butterfly Effect, +2 Rewinds (Not sure about that >< You can change that up if you want.), +1 Fire Storm.

Poseidon is just to rush earthquake the opponent and Butterfly effect is to rush destroy. You should have alteast 2 butterfly effects because once you earthquake'd the opponent to death, you can butterfly a pest and switch to Eagle's Eye. Any new pillars will be destroyed by the pest.

The Rewinds were just because I wanted more CC. Sometimes the opponent gets out an early (in my case) Arctic Squid or Ulitharid so I just wanted to put 2 cards for CC. Switch from Rewind if you want.

Lastly, because the explosions are gone, you now have enough quanta for fire storm! Yay... xD.
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And yeah xD I like this deck and it's a quick shut down indeed ;)
I like the advice and will definitely try it out!   

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Re: The Shutdown! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg117207#msg117207
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2010, 03:37:48 am »
The update is only 27 cards.
Look at the sentence after it... He says it leaves 3 cards to be filled in still and asked for suggestions for those 3 cards.

 

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