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The Queen's Hope-False God Deck(No Upped, Two Rare!) V1.4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27163.msg345157#msg345157
« on: June 02, 2011, 11:48:36 pm »
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False God---Win---Loss---Notes
Akebono----0-------1-------Turn 2 Momentum Overdrive Massive Dragons aren't fun.
Chaos Lord-0-------0-------Easy Win. Haven't fought yet.
Dark Matter-0------2--------Turn 2 Gravity nymph first time, second time... blessed charger and momentum angel killed me.
Decay--------0------0--------Slow but certain loss.
Destiny------0------1--------Bad bad luck...
Divine Glory-0------1--------Should have won. Bad draw and got rushed. He also got early burning towers.
Dream Catcher-0--0--------Really random.
Elidnis-------0-------0--------I should be able to win this one
Ethereal Phoenix-0-2--------OWW!
Ferox--------2-------0-------Easy as long as I get pulvy before last 10 cards.
Fire Queen-0-------0--------Depends. I have a chance.
Gemini------0-------0--------Chance, depends on momentum...
Graviton----0-------1--------Explosions. Game over for me =P
Hecate------0-------0--------Should be able to win. Good chance anyway.
Hermes-----0-------2--------PC.
Incarnate---0------0--------Should be able to win.
Jezebel-----0-------0-------Chance.
Lionheart--3-------0--------Deck'ed him out. Useful hint: Quint this last creatures for him. Don't play any creatures. Discard creatures.
Miracle-----0--------0--------Early steam=win.
Morte------0---------0-------Poison would beat me I think.
Neptune--2---------0-------Easy
Obliverator-0-------0-------Impossible.
Octane----0---------1-------Depends a bit...
Osiris------0---------3-------Grrr... Early steam and I could win by stalling till I win.
Paradox--1----------0-------So easy.
Rainbow--0---------0-------DOOM!
Scorpio---0---------1-------Poison. Nuff' said.
Seism-----0---------0-------Quicksand=oww. Chance if you only play one at a time.
Serket----0----------0------Early shield chain would work.

Current Games Played: 23/100
Current Win Percent: 8/23 or 34%Those stats are NOT yet done. Will finish soon.

The goal of this deck was to create a completely unupped False God Killer. Originally it didn't have any rares, but the 2 Pulverizers helps the win-rate immensely.

Card by Card Analysis:
Quantum Pillars- You need these. DUH!
Antimatter: Good for early dragons, good for EM.
Pulverizer: Great. Reusable PC.
Bonds: Healing, EMs.
Mind Flayers: Early they can get wins against Fire Queen and Osiris, and help against Elidnis.
Lava Golem: Massice damage buildup is great against shields.
Hope: Used with FFQ.
FFQ: Makes light generating fireflies for hope.
Sundials: Stalling and a draw.
Dimension Shield: 3 turns of stall! What more would you want?
Quints: For FFQ, Steam Machine, and Golden Dragon w/ Mitosis.


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These cards are good if you don't like something in the current deck.

Antimatter: Good for early dragons or late for EM. This would make 2 in the deck.
BE: Permanent control. You need to find a weak creature of your own to use it on.
Aflatoxin: Locks down opponents field.
Grvity Shield: Osiris and Lionheart.
Momentum: Used with Dune Scorpion.
Enchant Artifact: Protects Perms.
Rustler: Uses the light and makes life.
Empathic Bond: 3rd bond. More bonds can be good.
Rain of Fire: Good to kill off weak creatures in mass. Good on Fire Queen, Paradox, and Ferox.
Purify: Heals poison.
Mind Flayer: Lobotomizer in creature form. Good on Fire Queen, Chaos Lord, Destiny, Osiris, and Akebonos.
Crusader: If you add another weapons like Eternity.
Sanctuary: Healing and helps on Decay and Dark Matter.
Flying Weapon: If you add another weapon.
Gold Hourglass: Drawing power.
Dune Scorpion: Used with Momentum.
Steal: Takes a permanent and use it yourself. Quite nice.
Mindgate: Works well with Eternity and FGs tend to have nice stuff you can get.

Note: You can add a Eternity if you would like to. I suggest that.
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General Strategy
The goal of the deck is to stall using dimension shields and sundials until you can play a Firefly Queen, make some fireflies, and play hope.

Early Game:
You need to stall
Use the Dimension shields and sundials.
Try to get out a quinted FFQ. Start making Fireflies.
Sometimes quinting a flayer can help against gods like Hermes who would otherwise destroy it. This way it has enough time to take out all the annoying abilities.

Midgame
Try to make enough fireflies to block each god's damage.
Keep chaining shields and dials.
Play hope.
Make sure not to deck out.

Endgame:
Steam Machine can do alot in the end.
Beat out shield with Steam Machine. Don't deck out!

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God-by-God Strategy (Incomplete)

EASY
Ferox
The primary problem with him(or her) is the Feral Bonds. Pulverizers are very important.
He is really easy just because he lacks PC and CC. The chance of getting rushed is pretty low, just chain dials and shields early. Steam Machine is very important. Otherwise the Jade is ruin you.

Neptune
He is a bit harder, but still is really easy. Mostly he will CC your fireflies with Congeal an Shockwave. The trick here is to get A: Quinted Steam Machine or B: 2-3 Quinted FFQs. ulverizer is also crucial for destroying his permafrost shield. With A, just keep growing the Steam Machine every turn. With B, Do NOT destory the eagle's Eye he will use, and keep making Fireflies each turn. In the turn before they are frozen, the fireflies will hit for 3 each, and once they are frozen, Neptune will CC them with Eagle's Eye and Shockwave, leaving space to make more.
Note: I could have used Dimension Shield and EM'ed but though it better to show the Hope.
Divine Glory
This is really easy if you get an early FFQ and early hope. Or he gets no Burning Pillars or no Explosions. If he does get early explosions then draw them out using dials and maybe dimesion shields. don't worry about getting Fire Golem, just spam Fireflies for the win. Should be easy if you get a decent draw.


Lionheart
Don't play anything. Just stall with dials and Dimension shields until he runs out of cards. If he has 1 or two creatures out that he keeps rewinding, feel free to quint them so that he can not rewind, and will deck out. If you start the chain really early, you can EM.

Miracle
This is easy, just don't draw many extra cards with dials and make sure you leave a space for golem. Just let him miracle, and be careful not to deck out. This is one of the only gods where Eternity is useful. Your field should be 1 Lava Golem, 1-2 FFQs, and the rest will be Fireflies.


Medium
Fire Queen
Get an early Mind Flayer and you win. Otherwise try to quint a flayer so it doesn't get fire lanced and then lobo all the queen. After that Lobo the Fahrinheits and Eagle Eyes. Also get a quinted FFQ and put up hope. Pulvy is also important for the bonds and Fahrinheits. Leave a space for Lava Golem, because she has a shield that will block quite a bit of your Fireflie's damage.

Luck Based
Dream Catcher
Depends on how fast he BEs a Micro Abomb and also if he gets a lot of CC or PC or Quicksand. Pretty hard though. And the chance to win a card is very low.

Jezebel
Hope(Pun intended) that she doesn't get a Blue nymph. If she does, game over for you. The trick to to play dials early to draw away steals, playing bonds or Dimension shields also helps. I don't win against her often, but matches can be close. Your main advantage here is that her damage is INCREDIBLY Slow. So hope for the best and try to get a early quinted queen. Pulverizer should be used on cloaks, Permafrost, Vamp Dagger, and if you have excess, maybe quantum towers.

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Re: The Queen's Hope-False God Deck(No Upped, One Rare!) V1.3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27163.msg345248#msg345248
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2011, 02:59:02 am »
i think a fractal would be higher priority especially against miracle and divine glory and other gods with miracle you also dont have to worry bout like freeze form permafrost shield and possibly a little more draw power, plus stats plz

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Re: The Queen's Hope-False God Deck(No Upped, One Rare!) V1.3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27163.msg345554#msg345554
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2011, 08:36:29 pm »
i think a fractal would be higher priority especially against miracle and divine glory and other gods with miracle you also dont have to worry bout like freeze form permafrost shield and possibly a little more draw power, plus stats plz
Steam Machine and Mitosis Dragons passes Miracle.
Permafrost has got to be destroyed by pulvy. Also, you don't want more draw power. Dials are good enough. The Dimension shields stall for long enough to easily get every card you need.

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Re: The Queen's Hope-False God Deck(No Upped, One Rare!) V1.3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27163.msg345577#msg345577
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2011, 09:49:24 pm »
name is wrong btw it say no rare, what about that pulvy?

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Re: The Queen's Hope-False God Deck(No Upped, One Rare!) V1.3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27163.msg345659#msg345659
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2011, 01:13:15 am »
name is wrong btw it say no rare, what about that pulvy?
It's titled no upped, one rare, please try to read.

Interesting with it being Aether mark and phase shields.  I'll have to try it sometime.  Looks good.
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Re: The Queen's Hope-False God Deck(No Upped, One Rare!) V1.3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27163.msg346258#msg346258
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2011, 03:52:13 am »
Interesting with it being Aether mark and phase shields.  I'll have to try it sometime.  Looks good.
Thanks. I personally think that Aether mark and Dim Shields are great for early game stalling. Dials help for when the chain breaks due to not drawing a shield or PC.

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Re: The Queen's Hope-False God Deck(No Upped, One Rare!) V1.3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27163.msg351983#msg351983
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2011, 11:33:53 pm »
looks really promising.i am trying to create a fg farmer deck almost non upgraded for my own.if i cant do it,i will surely try this:)

edit : nevermind:)

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Re: The Queen's Hope-False God Deck(No Upped, One Rare!) V1.3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27163.msg352537#msg352537
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2011, 01:41:41 am »
Yeah, im pretty much done with this deck.

I build Skittles, Taste the Rainbow, and now I use that.

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Re: The Queen's Hope-False God Deck(No Upped, One Rare!) V1.3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27163.msg352560#msg352560
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2011, 03:12:30 am »
You know what srry bout that earlier I sorta doubted the deck at first but my sister and I both tried it and I was satisfied with the results (my sister didn't use it very well) but ya this is basically the stepping stone to skittles taste the rainbow which is a very good deck so I say get some stats up and a strategy guide and once it hits 30 replies it should most definitely be put in as a deck suggestion for unnuped FG decks (if you want I could do stats in about a week and a half)

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Re: The Queen's Hope-False God Deck(No Upped, One Rare!) V1.3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27163.msg353022#msg353022
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2011, 03:21:20 am »
You know what srry bout that earlier I sorta doubted the deck at first but my sister and I both tried it and I was satisfied with the results (my sister didn't use it very well) but ya this is basically the stepping stone to skittles taste the rainbow which is a very good deck so I say get some stats up and a strategy guide and once it hits 30 replies it should most definitely be put in as a deck suggestion for unnuped FG decks (if you want I could do stats in about a week and a half)
I am going to be away next week, week after that i'm going to get stats for 100-200 games.
Thanks for trying it. Any stats or help would be appreciated.

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Re: The Queen's Hope-False God Deck(No Upped, One Rare!) V1.3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27163.msg353035#msg353035
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2011, 04:37:08 am »
Jesus, ai3 has a deck kinda like this.. mostly just blue / green...

its the only time ive been able to beat that deck is with this deck.... its such a fun technical deck but hard to get rolling.. i actually in some cased find my self mitosising a firefly just to keep it going

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Re: The Queen's Hope-False God Deck(No Upped, One Rare!) V1.3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27163.msg353037#msg353037
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2011, 04:55:33 am »
Lionheart is sure to be an easy win between all the phases and sundials.

Edit: Yep



Moving on to talk about the deck, Wow! Seems awesome, fully unupped easy to use and stalls well while you wait for the hope. It's obviously a deck thats rattled by PC early game and CC late game which does present weaknesses if the control is heavy in either of those cases. Won 4/9 having a mess around with it, kinda surprised by the lack of hype surrounding this deck especially after seeing the way people talked about unupped CCYB and flay 'em. At first I thought maybe it's missing hourglasses but now I'm not so sure. Maybe better to try and pound through the deck and rewind on with eternity, I know how expensive those unupped hourglasses are though at 2 :time a shake.

Eitherway, nice work.


Switching back to a dimensional shield a turn earlier would've got me EM but since it was for a screenie I thought better to show the hope.



Played more and lost a crapload, guess maybe I was a lil lucky/unlucky at times.

 

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