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Re: The JMZ Classic [rainbow][Silver League][Gold League] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28027.msg362199#msg362199
« Reply #36 on: July 07, 2011, 05:46:14 am »
I prefer the angel to the glory. And adrenaline is almost a must. TU an adrenaline charger and you get 30 dpt for 3 cards.
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Re: The JMZ Classic [rainbow][Silver League][Gold League] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28027.msg362203#msg362203
« Reply #37 on: July 07, 2011, 05:56:01 am »
hmm how bout a fractal for the lava destroyer ( or anything cheap) for if your in a longer game and u have firefly queen out generating the fireflies = lots of spare fire quanta

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Re: The JMZ Classic [rainbow][Silver League][Gold League] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28027.msg362218#msg362218
« Reply #38 on: July 07, 2011, 06:19:57 am »
hmm how bout a fractal for the lava destroyer ( or anything cheap) for if your in a longer game and u have firefly queen out generating the fireflies = lots of spare fire quanta
I'd think if a game is going that long with this deck, you're in trouble anyway

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Re: The JMZ Classic [rainbow][Silver League][Gold League] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28027.msg362242#msg362242
« Reply #39 on: July 07, 2011, 07:30:49 am »
hmm how bout a fractal for the lava destroyer ( or anything cheap) for if your in a longer game and u have firefly queen out generating the fireflies = lots of spare fire quanta
I'd think if a game is going that long with this deck, you're in trouble anyway
Usually i finish a game in like 11 turns(i managed a 6 turns win with a good draw,TU-ed adrenalined chargers in turn 3 or 4)(or i got finished in 6-7 turns),and if a game takes long you have a good advantage of the field.
Example:You have fire shield and maxwell,you have flayer against flying weapons or FFQ/oty,you have adrenalined chargers against mono-aether.
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Re: The JMZ Classic [rainbow][Silver League][Gold League] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28027.msg362257#msg362257
« Reply #40 on: July 07, 2011, 09:12:09 am »
hmmm at the moment in gold im failing cant win a special spin only once been at 3/4 any ideas on what i might be doing wrong?

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Re: The JMZ Classic [rainbow][Silver League][Gold League] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28027.msg362263#msg362263
« Reply #41 on: July 07, 2011, 09:30:37 am »
hmmm at the moment in gold im failing cant win a special spin only once been at 3/4 any ideas on what i might be doing wrong?
First,adrenaline charger then TU,it is my hard hitter.
2.Against fire rushes a fire shield before they can receive creatures is important.Then you can just play maxwell and a bone wall.
3.Against mono-aether you steal the shield after you can OTK them.
4.Against rainbows you need to play that BH in 1st or 2nd turn.
5.Quit against mono-gravity.
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Re: The JMZ Classic [rainbow][Silver League][Gold League] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28027.msg362298#msg362298
« Reply #42 on: July 07, 2011, 10:38:44 am »
Hmmm, i gave this a try in gold league and perhaps im not playing it right...but it performed not nearly as well as a slightly modified version of tinkadys winged speedbow (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,9001.msg114415.html#msg114415)

My experiences:

- the deck sacrifices some speed damage for mid to late game control (e.g. fire shield, elite queen are more useful the longer the game lasts)
-> i lost some games without the chance of playing more expensive cards

- the deck lacks a bit PC, so annoying stuff like shields slow you down enough to allow stall decks to set up their defenses
-> quite a number of stall decks feature a number of steals themselves, reducing the value of your own shields

- against other speedbows the deck lacks early defenses
-> bone wall + maxwell is great, but maxwell is the only way to kill creatures, thus not really reliable

Still, i think it is an interesting approach and a nice deck... but i personally think something like this might be a bit better (though i havent done enough testing to prove my opinion)...well, at least thats the I personally prefer atm. Wings plus spiders just works great ;):

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Re: The JMZ Classic [rainbow][Silver League][Gold League] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28027.msg362301#msg362301
« Reply #43 on: July 07, 2011, 10:48:08 am »
Actually 2 steals are enough for me,i find this deck has more then 60% win rate which is great.
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Re: The JMZ Classic [rainbow][Silver League][Gold League] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28027.msg362335#msg362335
« Reply #44 on: July 07, 2011, 12:44:55 pm »
hmmm at the moment in gold im failing cant win a special spin only once been at 3/4 any ideas on what i might be doing wrong?
Nothing. There are some nasty gold decks out there- you can get killed in 4-5 turns and have absolutely no response for it, you can get quanta locked with quicksand/ black holes, poison/ firelance stall, mass creature and/ or permanent control can all absolutely crush you too.

I've played a lot of games with this deck and small variants recently, gained a lot of score and had some upgraded spins but not that many- farming FGs is much more efficient in terms of winning upgraded cards but the state of the gold rewards means the straight up electrum gains have been pretty good and being able to take a break from FG farming and try out all the other player- made decks is just fun.
The deck is competitive- occasionally you can get the upgraded spin, sometimes you'll get to beat decks with absolutely sick win/ loss records but often you'll win 3 games then lose the fourth and miss out on an upgraded spin.

I think that the crusader/ pulverizer combo over archangel/ second grabboid/ morning glory has worked best for me.

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Re: The JMZ Classic [rainbow][Silver League][Gold League] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28027.msg362424#msg362424
« Reply #45 on: July 07, 2011, 05:19:40 pm »
I think that the crusader/ pulverizer combo over archangel/ second grabboid/ morning glory has worked best for me.

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Re: The JMZ Classic [rainbow][Silver League][Gold League] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28027.msg362613#msg362613
« Reply #46 on: July 08, 2011, 01:05:44 am »
wow the new varient works wonders for me first game 5 turn win :)

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Re: The JMZ Classic [rainbow][Silver League][Gold League] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28027.msg362631#msg362631
« Reply #47 on: July 08, 2011, 02:21:40 am »
wow the new varient works wonders for me first game 5 turn win :)
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