Scorpion's Den [Fun]

[AD TienzuStorm]

Alright, first time posting a deck, whoo!

Anyways, this was made right after I realized that normal poison converts to neurotoxin.

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I've tested it against AI4 for a while, and it has done quite well so far (I didn't test that much, but it's at 10-2 right now).

I originally had two Scorpions in place of the Fog Shields, but then I needed a way to stall somewhat. So ta-da!

[CrockettRocket]

Change 2 novas to supernovas, then change 2 QTs to improved blessings, and change mark to entropy
May run it 31 cards with a sosac in there

[JonathanCrazyJ]

Change 2 novas to supernovas, then change 2 QTs to improved blessings, and change mark to entropy
May run it 31 cards with a sosac in there

I disagree with snovas and mark change. Nurotoxin decks require you to apply nurotoxin ASAP to make use of the opponent's early game card playing. doing it your way drastically lengthens the amount of time it will take to get out a buffed dune.

IMO you should have the same amount of buff cards as creatures that need buffing though.

[CrockettRocket]

Change 2 novas to supernovas, then change 2 QTs to improved blessings, and change mark to entropy
May run it 31 cards with a sosac in there

I disagree with snovas and mark change. Nurotoxin decks require you to apply nurotoxin ASAP to make use of the opponent's early game card playing. doing it your way drastically lengthens the amount of time it will take to get out a buffed dune.

IMO you should have the same amount of buff cards as creatures that need buffing though.

Drastically is a bad term there
Anyway hes not gonna be getting many turn 1 dunes, my way makes turn 1 dunes a lot less likely, but overall easier for turn 2 on an average, my way makes it more consistent and makes it so he has the same number of buff cards to creatures

[Solaris]

Change 2 novas to supernovas, then change 2 QTs to improved blessings, and change mark to entropy
May run it 31 cards with a sosac in there

I disagree with snovas and mark change. Nurotoxin decks require you to apply nurotoxin ASAP to make use of the opponent's early game card playing. doing it your way drastically lengthens the amount of time it will take to get out a buffed dune.

IMO you should have the same amount of buff cards as creatures that need buffing though.

Drastically is a bad term there
Anyway hes not gonna be getting many turn 1 dunes, my way makes turn 1 dunes a lot less likely, but overall easier for turn 2 on an average, my way makes it more consistent and makes it so he has the same number of buff cards to creatures

Let's say this deck gets first turn, and draws 2x nova, 1x Quantum Tower, a Dune Scorp, and a Momentum. Plays the novas, the quantum tower (hopefully) provides 1 Time Quanta, to give enough quanta for the turn 1 dune. This isn't an overly demanding situation, either, it's truly possible. With the first turn advantage, the opponent plays after him, adding even more neurotoxin, due to pillars/pends/novas/etc

[AD TienzuStorm]

IMO you should have the same amount of buff cards as creatures that need buffing though.

Well, you really should buff only one or two Dune Scorpions, there are five just to ensure that most games start off with either one in hand or a Shard of Bravery that can lead to getting a Dune Scorpion in your hand. The real scorpions you should be buffing are the Deathstalkers.

So generally, you'll really only have five or six scorpions max on the field.

[JonathanCrazyJ]

A buffed dune is still as good as an arsenic, which is pretty good.

[CrockettRocket]

Change 2 novas to supernovas, then change 2 QTs to improved blessings, and change mark to entropy
May run it 31 cards with a sosac in there

I disagree with snovas and mark change. Nurotoxin decks require you to apply nurotoxin ASAP to make use of the opponent's early game card playing. doing it your way drastically lengthens the amount of time it will take to get out a buffed dune.

IMO you should have the same amount of buff cards as creatures that need buffing though.

Drastically is a bad term there
Anyway hes not gonna be getting many turn 1 dunes, my way makes turn 1 dunes a lot less likely, but overall easier for turn 2 on an average, my way makes it more consistent and makes it so he has the same number of buff cards to creatures

Let's say this deck gets first turn, and draws 2x nova, 1x Quantum Tower, a Dune Scorp, and a Momentum. Plays the novas, the quantum tower (hopefully) provides 1 Time Quanta, to give enough quanta for the turn 1 dune. This isn't an overly demanding situation, either, it's truly possible. With the first turn advantage, the opponent plays after him, adding even more neurotoxin, due to pillars/pends/novas/etc

The 50 50 on the coin toss and hoping qt gives a time quanta is overly demanding, but now lets throw in 2 novas a dune, and an unstoppable -_-
Yes, when that happens, it does work 10x more effectivly, but my way allows for you to get maybe 4 dunes in one turn and helps when the cost is 3
it essentially boils down to preference, but I think if tests were done on how fast you get a dune out, mine would be more consistant and the outlier wouldn't be as far

[Chapuz]

Poison decks are better when stalling, you have to wait the poison deals damage. Rushing with scorps and SoBr doesn't look like will make you deal 100 damage before decking out.

[AD TienzuStorm]

Change 2 novas to supernovas, then change 2 QTs to improved blessings, and change mark to entropy
May run it 31 cards with a sosac in there

I just tried using your version, and so far, it hasn't been very successful. I always end up with my hand consisting of buffs and Dune Scorpions that can't be played because the lone QT won't generate any Time quanta (similar to how you wrote off MMC about hoping the QT would generate Time quanta), and have had to discard cards, even in the middle of the game.

Poison decks are better when stalling, you have to wait the poison deals damage. Rushing with scorps and SoBr doesn't look like will make you deal 100 damage before decking out.

Decking out isn't the problem, it's managing to kill them before they kill you. SoBr is nice in certain neurotoxin decks because it encourages playing more cards, but they also get to attack much faster. I'm thinking of adding in maybe a Rewind or two for extra damage and less damage taken.

[CrockettRocket]

Quick 5 games with my version; testing first appearance of a buffed dune scorp (Quanta denial games rendered invalid and not included in results)
4,3,2,6 (not because of quanta, but because of not drawing a dune until turn 6),5
With my version I only found 1 game where I didn't get a dune out because of quanta until rather late, being my last game

Your version:
3rd turn, had 2 novas and 2 qt starting hand and couldve gotten first turn dune but didnt draw a dune until 3rd, 2nd turn dune, had 1 nova in starting hand then drew another the 2nd turn, 1st turn (didn't win coin toss ), 2nd turn, had qt and nova in starting hand, 2nd turn, had 2 QT's and 2 novas in starting hand

Labeld what was in starting hand this time to show when the time mark made a difference, the 2nd and 4th and 5th game the mark made a difference
Without entropy mark (keep time mark) I prefer a 5 nova to 1 supernova ratio, as I strive to get the most supernovas I can in a deck like this where a common cost is 3
Ill do more in depth and lengthier testing later, but with a revised 5:1 instead of 4:2 ratio