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Re: The Condor aka Jallen's Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5678.msg252855#msg252855
« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2011, 10:23:00 pm »
Hmmm, looks like it needs some permanent controls. In my testing, those FG with those pesky permanents like bonds, weapons, etc are a real pain

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Re: The Condor aka Jallen's Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5678.msg252868#msg252868
« Reply #49 on: January 20, 2011, 10:45:15 pm »
Use mutants for perm control if needed.

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Re: The Condor aka Jallen's Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5678.msg253562#msg253562
« Reply #50 on: January 21, 2011, 09:24:26 pm »
Hi. I recently won 2 Purple Nymths from the Oracle, can I substitute the 2 Antimatters with:
-2 Purple Nymths
-1 Purple Nymth, 1 Shard of Readiness

Which one will work better you think? Guys suggestions please?

Could this the the "advice" you need? A lot of people have a collection of nymths now, so maybe the two "wild" Antimatters can be replaced with 1 nymth and 1 SoR for more nullifying? Well probably 1 more quint is required too if the nympth is going in.
Don't put it up because not everyone has it, but maybe as an alternate option?

EDIT: New strategy. Always put purple nymth before air nymth. Antimatter the air nymth so that nothing targets it (not even rewinds, turtle shields, etc), make gas, aflat opponent creatures to fill up their slots, use permafrost or jade, win! Or just stall and build up enough gases to make a sudden death. This strategy only works for people with both nymths sadly. :(
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Re: The Condor aka Jallen's Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5678.msg253684#msg253684
« Reply #51 on: January 21, 2011, 11:29:19 pm »
EDIT: New strategy. Always play Purple Nymth before Anything, so that you can Antimatter whatever follows it so it doesn't get targeted (creatures won't attack the Antimattered thing, rewind it, damage shield effects don't work on it, etc) Now Aflatoxin opponent creatures to fill up their creature slots, then use Permafrost or Jade Shield to defend, wait for Air Nympth to make at least one gas to kill all the Cells (or make many gases for a sudden death), then you win! This strategy only works for people with both nymths sadly. :(
(http://imageplay.net/view/m7Gbd126455/The_Condor)

And wow! The mighty graviton just got decked out by my purple nymth several times. :)
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Re: The Condor aka Jallen's Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5678.msg254011#msg254011
« Reply #52 on: January 22, 2011, 07:37:17 am »
Yes, Nymphs are awesome additions to this deck.  I currently use a build with 1 darkness nymph and a mindgate, instead of the mind flayer and a steal.  The dark nymph is usuable as a lobotomize, and the mindgate is superior to steal in many situations.  I don't put nymphs in the main deck design because I don't want to post a deck that needs nymphs, but many nymphs make a nice addition to this deck.  I WISH I had a purple nymph or an air nymph, but so far I do not.

This is my current build:
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Re: The Condor aka Jallen's Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5678.msg254014#msg254014
« Reply #53 on: January 22, 2011, 07:45:42 am »
u use black nymph in this deck?
(i think i found a use for mine...)

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Re: The Condor aka Jallen's Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5678.msg254026#msg254026
« Reply #54 on: January 22, 2011, 08:09:25 am »
Really? How do you use a Black Nymth in this deck? I swear, I have like 3 Black Nymths. Nymths are fun to use in decks. :3

Btw can anyone give me omse advice on my deck? The link is in my signature.
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Re: The Condor aka Jallen's Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5678.msg255960#msg255960
« Reply #55 on: January 24, 2011, 05:40:10 am »
The nymph is my ONLY darkness card in a rainbow deck, making the quanta cost not so bad.

She serves several purposes:

1) Lobotomize: she can take away useful abilities of creatures, not momentum, but still useful.

2) Extra Lifegain: vampire herself or a mutant or your own malignant cells for a little extra life.  Makes the difference of 1 extra turn to get quanta for miracle.  Also, vamp a condor at the end after a miracle for the EM win.

3) Kill those pesky critters.  Sure, it's only 1 damage per turn, but it can bring guys down to oty range or just plain kill them.  Great against phoenix!

4) Distraction!  In my experience, the computer targets the nymph most often over other critters, so a nymph is good for a single turn protection of one creature in some cases.


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Re: The Condor aka Jallen's Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5678.msg255962#msg255962
« Reply #56 on: January 24, 2011, 05:42:06 am »
One of the best things about Nymphs: very, very high priority targets for the AI's Twin Universe.

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Re: The Condor aka Jallen's Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5678.msg256033#msg256033
« Reply #57 on: January 24, 2011, 09:10:28 am »
and what about a liquid shadow/antimatter combo?
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Re: The Condor aka Jallen's Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5678.msg256034#msg256034
« Reply #58 on: January 24, 2011, 09:11:59 am »
also dont you think adding steal is a good idea? thats a damn useful card you know
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Re: The Condor aka Jallen's Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5678.msg256091#msg256091
« Reply #59 on: January 24, 2011, 12:03:38 pm »
double post = bad

Dark Nymph allows for Liquid Shadow if needed, but the fractal/condor kill condition makes the extra damage not necessary.

Steal isn't really needed as far as I can tell, but maybe it increases the win rate. 

Experiment, go nuts.  Previous version have had a steal in it.  I dunno.  Win rate is as high as 45% and I'm not sure how I can get it much higher right now... still testing.

 

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