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Re: The Condor aka Jallen's Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5678.msg258938#msg258938
« Reply #60 on: January 28, 2011, 10:02:04 am »
Condor is pretty impulsive deck. I started to build it on. But I have some question:

shields: even jade or permafrost shield can protect you agains cells in unupped format. Upped format is cost one more quanta. So is it really need to upgrade those cards?

permanent controll: In previous version there is butterfly effect. Now there are not any pulverizer or BE. Didn't you think to pick one in?

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Re: The Condor aka Jallen's Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5678.msg259344#msg259344
« Reply #61 on: January 29, 2011, 05:43:42 am »
The upped shieldes have 1 more damage protection- that means life or death with massive creature spam gods like FQ, Osiris, and Decay.
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Re: The Condor aka Jallen's Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5678.msg261728#msg261728
« Reply #62 on: February 01, 2011, 04:37:04 am »
mutants are the perm control for the deck, play accordingly, quint the elf and use the 2nd alfalfa on your own 2nd oty, mutate your cells and hope for a destroy or steal.

Tips:

1) watch your death quanta and cards left in deck, I usually make it a rule to stop drawing with hourglasses at 10 cards left.
2) Know who to quint.  Different FGs take different strategies, so you need to know which 2 creatures to quint and what win-condition you are going to use.  Some FGs fall to the fractal/condor/firestorm, some fall to mutant swarm
3) Don't be impatient.  You have 99 hps to protect you from death, most games, you will sacrifice most of them, miracle, sacrifice yet more, and maybe miracle again before the win.  Play only the cards necessary and don't take risks.  The deck takes a beating the whole game, then delivers the KO punch, so don't worry about getting hurt, just make sure you don't die.
4) don't be afraid to improvise.  Many games I have won have been because I was willing to sacrifice key cards for just one more turn.  Maybe you need to drop a single condor and bonewall with nothing out, just because you know the condor will die, the bonewall will block 9 creatures, and you can miracle the next turn.  Even without the condor, you still have the mutant swarm as a fallback.

Like I have said in the past, this deck requires PERFECT execution most of the time.  A single mistake in judgment on your part becomes death.  This is why, in my opinion, it is fun to play, because it keep me thinking on my feet.  From my experience, the win rate is close to 60% when considering only games in which I made no tactical errors.


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Re: The Condor aka Jallen's Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5678.msg267603#msg267603
« Reply #63 on: February 09, 2011, 11:05:37 am »
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Putting my nymphs to work with a little different build.  Timebow instead of Entropybow.  Not sure if it's more effective, but it sure is fun.

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Re: The Condor aka Jallen's Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5678.msg267703#msg267703
« Reply #64 on: February 09, 2011, 05:58:56 pm »
what about

-1 miracle
-1 pandemonium
+1 purple nymph
+ 1 quint
purple + dark nymph is a good synergy
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Re: The Condor aka Jallen's Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5678.msg267906#msg267906
« Reply #65 on: February 09, 2011, 11:22:04 pm »
I don't yet have a purple nymph, but yes, even +2 amethyst tower +1 Nymphs Tears has shown some promise.

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Re: The Condor aka Jallen's Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5678.msg275969#msg275969
« Reply #66 on: February 22, 2011, 02:32:43 am »
Using another version of The Condor right now:

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I'm not sure about the statistics right now, but it seems like it is more reliable at least.  My first guess would be that the win rate is about the same as 5.0, but a little faster.  It is, however, much more difficult to play, because many game require crafty uses of the chimera to bring a win.  It stays true to the condor concept, and builds upon it, making 360/150 chimeras for the win condition, but still uses mutants or simply a single oty for the win sometimes.  I guess I'll track stats for 100 games to see what's what.

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Re: The Condor aka Jallen's Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5678.msg276189#msg276189
« Reply #67 on: February 22, 2011, 11:03:40 am »
otyugh + afloxtin + quinted  Elf?
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Re: The Condor aka Jallen's Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5678.msg276253#msg276253
« Reply #68 on: February 22, 2011, 02:03:32 pm »
otyugh + afloxtin + quinted  Elf?
Aflatoxin second Otyugh, mutate cells with Elf, and you can even eat the cells with your Otyugh if you really want to, as they will grow right back

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Re: The Condor aka Jallen's Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5678.msg276262#msg276262
« Reply #69 on: February 22, 2011, 02:32:28 pm »
I shall have to try this.  I saw all those large chimera you were getting in chat last night.

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Re: The Condor aka Jallen's Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5678.msg284474#msg284474
« Reply #70 on: March 06, 2011, 06:31:05 am »
I want a 6.0 Condor nao :o.

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Re: The Condor aka Jallen's Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5678.msg285181#msg285181
« Reply #71 on: March 07, 2011, 03:16:25 am »

 

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