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Re: The Brave Malignant Ball That Could [OTK][FG][Plat][Gold][63%WR][49%EM] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48075.msg1057831#msg1057831
« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2013, 05:07:51 am »
Right, CuCN I've said originally that this is no beginners deck.
I also think, you aren't just a grinder, but an actual  good player at this game.  You have clearly played against the FGs with various types of decks, you knew how to play against the FGs, realizing against one FG you can do certain things and others you don't.  It didn't take long for you to figure out how to play.  mwaetht as able to clearly figure out a few things as well, hence a bit better result compared to others.
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Re: The Brave Malignant Ball That Could [OTK][FG][Plat][Gold][63%WR][49%EM] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48075.msg1103118#msg1103118
« Reply #37 on: October 14, 2013, 02:14:29 am »
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Re: The Brave Malignant Ball That Could [OTK][FG][Plat][Gold][63%WR][49%EM] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48075.msg1106721#msg1106721
« Reply #38 on: October 31, 2013, 06:24:20 pm »
I definitely like this deck. When it works, it will totally destroy many FG... my only issue is that it is a little weak against FGs that pack a lot of PC, which tends to disrupt several key points of the deck (sundials, and SoP getting shredded makes winning more tricky).
It also has problems with bad draws... Without nova, there is no way to get the combo to work, which also means you have to be careful against blackhole users.

Draw and PC weakness aside, I think its a very strong strategy. I agree that its definitely no beginners deck since a small mistep can cost you the game (the quanta wipe on SoSac particularly). But when everything falls into place its a beauty to use.

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Re: The Brave Malignant Ball That Could [OTK][FG][Plat][Gold][63%WR][49%EM] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48075.msg1107091#msg1107091
« Reply #39 on: November 03, 2013, 06:54:53 am »
Excessive PC is it's weakness, and if it didn't have that weakness it would be rediculously over powered.

Fortunately, most FGs don't have excessive PC.
If you are going for a high FGei, skip the FGs that have excessive PC.  If you like a high win rate that follow below:
A few tricks to protect against PC when facing the AI

The AI will target SoPa for steal before any of your other perms.
The AI will target Sundials for all other PC before any of your other perms.
The AI will target only one Sundial in the same form of destruction.  It won't cast two deflags on both sundials for example, but it will cast a deflag and a butterfly effect on two sundials.

Against Jezebel, sit on your dials and SoPa for as long as you can, use dials later in the game, let Jezebel steal your towers instead and hope she doesn't get a grav nymph you can win 30% of the time that way (otherwise she's a skip)

Against Osiris Anti-flax SoFos, the AI will eat the SoFo immediately, and catapult the cell. (Almost always a win unless it has SoFo out of first or second turn, don't skip)

Against Dream catcher, anti-flax anything it puts butterfly effect on, and use Sundials even if they are a waste if you put out SoPas early. (Wins are usually TTW and hard earned)

Against Akibono, use anti-flax on SoFo it will often Chimera early to block the anti-flax.  Also use anti-flax on Chimera, it will self destruct it's own chimera into a cell for some unknown reason.  (Using this trick Akebono is almost always a win, don't skip)

Against Hecate, use and cast only one SoPa later in the game, destroy it once he has stolen it.  If he releases it before you destroy it, you can cast a SoPa again. Use a TTW for a win. (Don't skip)

Against Divine Glory, hold onto SoPa and two novas until cells fill the board or almost fill the board, use up to 3 SoSas and hope he doesn't have a slow damage draw to stay alive.  Then cast 2 sundials and SoPa together, continue with the 2 sundials thing for 3 rounds, then cast your last SoSa, you will end up with 4 turns of SoPa bonus giving you  207 damage, unfortunately, his shield will block 23 of that damage usually and he has miracles.  So you will then attack, take the SoSa damage, probably attack again, almost die, then finally win.  (This is a hard win, usually you skip for FGei sake)

Eternal Phoenix, and Hermes have all the combos to beat this deck, no advice, wins when they do happen are because the AI had a bad hand.



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Re: The Brave Malignant Ball That Could [OTK][FG][Plat][Gold][63%WR][49%EM] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48075.msg1107092#msg1107092
« Reply #40 on: November 03, 2013, 08:05:40 am »
TTW means turns to win and is used to calculate the average turns to win a game. The term you're looking for is TTK (two-turn kill).
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Re: The Brave Malignant Ball That Could [OTK][FG][Plat][Gold][63%WR][49%EM] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48075.msg1107291#msg1107291
« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2013, 03:36:50 pm »
I don't mean TTK, but I mean choose a multiple turns to win approach.  Perhaps MTW?

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Re: The Brave Malignant Ball That Could [OTK][FG][Plat][Gold][63%WR][49%EM] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48075.msg1107317#msg1107317
« Reply #42 on: November 04, 2013, 06:13:47 pm »
I don't mean TTK, but I mean choose a multiple turns to win approach.  Perhaps MTW?

The whole "TW" thing is a bit more generalized. I think I understand that you are saying it will take more than one turn to get the kill (since you are going for a kill, not a deck out). Basically anything longer than a OTK. I would just say that: don't go for a OTK.
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« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2013, 01:26:15 am »
Can you mkae a full strategy guide for this deck? Put down all the tricks you know for this deck.
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« Reply #44 on: December 02, 2013, 05:08:03 pm »
Can you mkae a full strategy guide for this deck? Put down all the tricks you know for this deck.

That would be incredibly helpful. This is a very advanced deck, and I know it takes people quite a while to ramp up to full skill with it. A guide written by a user who knows this deck inside-out could help not only with using this deck, but also with becoming more familiar with the nuances of Elements.
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Re: The Brave Malignant Ball That Could [OTK][FG][Plat][Gold][63%WR][49%EM] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48075.msg1112993#msg1112993
« Reply #45 on: December 02, 2013, 05:35:10 pm »
Can you mkae a full strategy guide for this deck? Put down all the tricks you know for this deck.

+1, I can outperform a lot of FG grinders with this deck but can't get it to perform to the same standard as Voodoo Bravery, mainly because I doubt I'm reaching 63%WR.

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Re: The Brave Malignant Ball That Could [OTK][FG][Plat][Gold][63%WR][49%EM] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48075.msg1113014#msg1113014
« Reply #46 on: December 02, 2013, 09:05:15 pm »
can you add a few more spoilers to the OP, to shrink the size a little and make it a little easier to navigate?
perhaps a spoiler for 'the cards', 'playstyle' and 'false gods'
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« Reply #47 on: December 03, 2013, 12:33:05 am »
Well, that was a heftier read after one day than I was expecting. :) The effort you went to for that is much appreciated.

 

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