The Bone Collector [Silver League][Bronze League]

[frimax]

I'm getting so rich =....) (happiness) 

I meant early Shard of Freedom, any link to a good farmer in the arena, doesn't matter if it's silver or gold.
But I been trying a variant of the Bone collector with Freedom and it's sweet, since the forest specter, archangel and the twin universe. 
3 masters in a row in gold. hahaha

[furballdn]

I'm getting so rich =....) (happiness) 

I meant early Shard of Freedom, any link to a good farmer in the arena, doesn't matter if it's silver or gold.
But I been trying a variant of the Bone collector with Freedom and it's sweet, since the forest specter, archangel and the twin universe. 
3 masters in a row in gold. hahaha

SoFre is only useful if your deck centers on airborne creatures. Just a forest specter, archangel, and maxwell aren't worth putting SoFre in here. Additionally, SoFre isn't that useful unless you have at least 3 or 4.

[frimax]

Its alright with me, I'm just trying to find my way around so many phase shields in GOLD, it either that, Psion, momentum or I'm still thinking about which cards to change, FRE+maxwell+angel+specter+TU already gave me some wins, momentum is good too, SoBr, Butterfly effect+OTy, or maybe I will just add a

SILENCE.
hahaha

[aspex]

you know, with my all black deck i kept wondering why 18 pillars in a 35 card deck never got me enough quanta until turn 4 when a few devourers got out.

I've been wondering if it's my bad luck or if the "randomizer" in this game is broken.  So I tried this deck... (with a few extra pillars to bring it to 35 because i can't afford the upgrades)

after 3 games in level 3 so i can "learn" the deck, I found myself screaming once again
ARE YOU F'N KIDDING ME?!   Is this a bug, or does this happen to everybody.. because it happens to me A LOT!

[furballdn]

you know, with my all black deck i kept wondering why 18 pillars in a 35 card deck never got me enough quanta until turn 4 when a few devourers got out.

I've been wondering if it's my bad luck or if the "randomizer" in this game is broken.  So I tried this deck... (with a few extra pillars to bring it to 35 because i can't afford the upgrades)

after 3 games in level 3 so i can "learn" the deck, I found myself screaming once again
ARE YOU F'N KIDDING ME?!   Is this a bug, or does this happen to everybody.. because it happens to me A LOT!

I see you're using unupped cards. If the novas aren't upped, there's no way the deck can work. Upped pillars also help a lot.

[frimax]

at least 50% of your cards need to be quanta production, look at one of my decks for example,

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how many quanta producer cards do you find?

(14 or 16?)/30=it works, also 0 quanta cards are very effective, genome, RoL, spark, nova, immolation, damselfly(<-- best).

If you need newbies decks take a look at one of my posts.

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,41567.0.html
GL.
 

[furballdn]

at least 50% of your cards need to be quanta production, look at one of my decks for example,

O RLY

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[aspex]

i'm sorry, maybe i'm blind but i'm only seeing around 30% in those decks...

but what's being said is that it IS broken, because simple math says 3 of 10 cards SHOULD be quanta producing in a deck with fewer pillars than what i cobbled together from the original deck in this post.

in fact, i put in more due to lack of upgrades.

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of course mono-aether does the opposite, where i draw nothing BUT pillars until the deck runs out and is forced to give me playable cards. 

sorry, didn't mean to hijack.. just so mad and it seems nobody else has this problem...
(d'oh!  i pasted the screenshot over the other image, that was chaos lord from the Oracle, not level 3.)

[furballdn]

3 Supernovas and 3 novas along with all that won't do anything. For a SNbow, (expensive cards that cost over 4 quanta, you NEED at least 5 or 6 supernovas to act as the backbone of quanta generation).

My guide to unupped rainbows My guide to upped rainbows

[aspex]

so let me get this perfectly clear...

If I don't include over 50% pillars in my deck, or UPGRADE ALL of the quanta producing cards in a deck... the game will not let me draw them until I've drawn all the other cards. 
That is what my experience tells me (except with mono aether where it's the exact opposite).  Stupid me, I expected the game to actually shuffle the deck.

Thank you so much for your help.  I will now quit this and go back to Tripeaks Solitaire.

[furballdn]

No, you're wrong. I just said that without fully upgraded all your supernovas, you'll have a hard time. The game shuffles your deck. You just made a deck where you use expensive cards but not enough quanta generation. Cognitive bias.

[Calindu]

Akay, this gets very off-topic, but there's my latest variant of this deck:

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The SN/nova split is surprisingly effective, and with 3 SoFos and the Rage Elixir/Eagle's Eye(snipe once and you have another PC)/GPull you have a lot of PC.