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The blessed and the unstoppable (I'm really bad at coming up with names) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43464.msg542205#msg542205
« on: September 15, 2012, 03:28:04 pm »
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Pretty simple: boost the lightening and the the deathstalkers for damage. Unstoppable works best on the deathstalkers, and blessing works best on lightening. The only frustrating thing is the discard after the first draw (I usually end up playing a lightening), which is why I put two pillars in there. No cc or pc, so it's got to be a quick deck. It's worked pretty well for me overall. Thoughts?

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Re: The blessed and the unstoppable (I'm really bad at coming up with names) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43464.msg542229#msg542229
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2012, 04:41:49 pm »
Make it smaller, and use CPs when you're using a lot of entropy.  My suggestion:

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Re: The blessed and the unstoppable (I'm really bad at coming up with names) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43464.msg542251#msg542251
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2012, 05:36:04 pm »
And no dunes?
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Re: The blessed and the unstoppable (I'm really bad at coming up with names) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43464.msg542253#msg542253
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2012, 05:45:17 pm »
And no dunes?

Dunes would completely change the deck.  I am not comfortable with suggesting such a major change.

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Re: The blessed and the unstoppable (I'm really bad at coming up with names) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43464.msg542259#msg542259
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2012, 06:05:35 pm »
And no dunes?
Dunes would completely change the deck.  I am not comfortable with suggesting such a major change.
Joking, right? just replace 2-3 scorps/BL for dunes
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Re: The blessed and the unstoppable (I'm really bad at coming up with names) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43464.msg542260#msg542260
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2012, 06:06:22 pm »
And no dunes?
Dunes would completely change the deck.  I am not comfortable with suggesting such a major change.
Joking, right? just replace 2-3 scorps for dunes
No, not joking.  A deck with Dunes is different than a deck with deathstalkers.  Dunes are also more synergistic with sundial, RT, Eternity, etc. and this deck lacks those.  Therefore I would not put dunes in.

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Re: The blessed and the unstoppable (I'm really bad at coming up with names) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43464.msg542264#msg542264
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2012, 06:18:11 pm »
His point is that since you are using supernovas, you can use Dunes for time without affecting the deck in a negative light, but in fact positively I believe.
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Re: The blessed and the unstoppable (I'm really bad at coming up with names) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43464.msg542372#msg542372
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2012, 09:35:39 pm »
His point is that since you are using supernovas, you can use Dunes for time without affecting the deck in a negative light, but in fact positively I believe.

It's not about affecting the deck positively. I am not comfortable with suggesting such a major change. A deck with Dunes is significantly different than a deck with deathstalkers.  Therefore I would not put dunes in, as it would significantly change the deck.

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Re: The blessed and the unstoppable (I'm really bad at coming up with names) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43464.msg542393#msg542393
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2012, 12:02:28 am »
His point is that since you are using supernovas, you can use Dunes for time without affecting the deck in a negative light, but in fact positively I believe.

It's not about affecting the deck positively. I am not comfortable with suggesting such a major change. A deck with Dunes is significantly different than a deck with deathstalkers.  Therefore I would not put dunes in, as it would significantly change the deck.
The idea was to balance the quanta
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Re: The blessed and the unstoppable (I'm really bad at coming up with names) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43464.msg1000035#msg1000035
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2012, 06:05:26 am »
Just 1 dune... Isn't your idea is to bless or unstoppablize creatures so that they can attack or stay alive?
2 or more dune in play will be not that good since its quanta/atk ratio is bad, but 1 dune should be quite nice.
When you play 2 SNs, you'll have 4 :time quanta and will have to draw another SN to play the deathstalker. But if you use dune, you don't have to.
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Re: The blessed and the unstoppable (I'm really bad at coming up with names) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43464.msg1000261#msg1000261
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2012, 12:37:31 am »
And no dunes?
Dunes would completely change the deck.  I am not comfortable with suggesting such a major change.
Joking, right? just replace 2-3 scorps for dunes
No, not joking.  A deck with Dunes is different than a deck with deathstalkers.  Dunes are also more synergistic with sundial, RT, Eternity, etc. and this deck lacks those.  Therefore I would not put dunes in.
Ok you are really ticking me off with these posts here.
1) This isn't your deck, so what if you can't suggest these while feeling comfortable? We can, we will, and we are.
2) Your only reasoning is that this is different. Well, a RoL/Hope deck with -2 Dragons +2 Angels is different. Does anyone argue with it just because it is different? No. Do they think that one is better than the other due to different advantages and disadvantages, well, yeah, but that is more personal opinion so they don't dispute it.
3) This was suggested (a valid suggestion imho) because it is better for the deck, makes it stronger, faster, and increases quanta balance.
4) Why are you so arrogant? Your posts here make me get the impression that you think just because you disagree with it, it is wrong. Well, that path of thinking is wrong.
5) A deck does not have to be completely based around a card that is popularly used to base decks around just to include it in a deck. Sure, it may take advantage of that card's abilities, but a deck can be improved by said card in different ways for different reasons. I don't see why you can't wrap your head around that.
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Re: The blessed and the unstoppable (I'm really bad at coming up with names) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43464.msg1000291#msg1000291
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2012, 02:35:38 am »
Ok you are really ticking me off with these posts here.

I just realized that the original poster never even posted again. That makes the argument kind of pointless. Let HIM/HER make up his own mind!

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