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The attack is a pest [Upped] [gold arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55656.msg1154751#msg1154751
« on: September 10, 2014, 08:13:48 pm »
I was fooling around with some devourers and shard of patience when I, with a good deal of help from MimaTheEvilSpirit, figured out something that was new to me, when you unburrow the pests their attack does not revert back to "full atk", but it gets doubled, meaning that the attack boost from shard of patience is doubled.
Based on this... glitch? mechanic I threw together this rainbow:
Spoiler for how I play it (outdated, as I've since gotten the last few upgrades):
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 5c6 5og 5og 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6u5 6u5 75c 7dm 7dm 7hi 7hi 7k6 7k6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 80i 80i 8pu
I tested it against gold and got decent too good win rates.
(This is coming from someone that have been using swallow actively, though there might be some bias to this so I  say thanks to any feedback)

here's the upped version:
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6u5 6u5 74g 7am 7dm 7dm 7hi 7hi 7k6 7k6 7n0 7n0 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 80i 80i 8pu


Here's the version CrockettRocket mentioned (it seams better overall, though there are some rare cases where I miss some of the cards from the original):
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6u5 74f 7am 7dm 7dm 7hi 7hi 7k6 7k6 7n0 7qb 7qb 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 80i 80i 8pu

One could also use it with -1x sanctuary and +1x improved fog, but I'd say that's a matter of opinion.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2014, 08:04:12 pm by nelde59 »
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Re: The attack is a pest [Upped] [gold arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55656.msg1154752#msg1154752
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2014, 08:33:09 pm »
I do not believe it is a glitch.  It is simply the standard mechanic of how burrowing/un-burrowing works.

Burrowing - halve the creatures unburrowed-ATK
Unburrowing - double the creatures burrowed-ATK

Your deck here looks quite similar to something I had in testing for CL (have not yet actually used in PvP) title "Denial-bow"!  In beta-testing for me, it struggled against a fast-starting opponent as the racing-ability is very limited in this deck-type.
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Re: The attack is a pest [Upped] [gold arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55656.msg1154756#msg1154756
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2014, 08:43:22 pm »
I do not believe it is a glitch.  It is simply the standard mechanic of how burrowing/un-burrowing works.

Burrowing - halve the creatures unburrowed-ATK
Unburrowing - double the creatures burrowed-ATK

Your deck here looks quite similar to something I had in testing for CL (have not yet actually used in PvP) title "Denial-bow"!  In beta-testing for me, it struggled against a fast-starting opponent as the racing-ability is very limited in this deck-type.
Thanks for letting me know that this is most likely not a glitch.
Also thanks for letting me know that this have been done before to some degree.
(I was really wondering about why I found no results for the combination "nova-fractal-pest-SoP")

Many of the cards I put in this deck is there to help it survive the earlier rounds (sanctuary, explosion, discord, fog shield, and also to some degree feral bond, though that is also for late game where the number of devourers keeps you alive for the last few turns you need for the kill)
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Re: The attack is a pest [Upped] [gold arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55656.msg1154761#msg1154761
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2014, 08:57:58 pm »
I looked it up in my deck code collection... it isn't nearly as similar as I recalled!  Here it is for comparison's sake:

Deny-bow II
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It is much less rainbow than your deck, nelde.  It wasn't really finished with tweaking so it is likely your angle of more variety and utility is better all-around.
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Re: The attack is a pest [Upped] [gold arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55656.msg1154765#msg1154765
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2014, 09:11:27 pm »
I looked it up in my deck code collection... it isn't nearly as similar as I recalled!  Here it is for comparison's sake:

Deny-bow II
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It is much less rainbow than your deck, nelde.  It wasn't really finished with tweaking so it is likely your angle of more variety and utility is better all-around.

given that elements decks usually work best with one thing in mind, it is easy to see why you'd choose such an approach. Though it might not look like it my deck has one main focus too: stalling for long enough to lock the opponent down while making sure to have enough damage to kill (or in simpler terms: get out devourers as fast as possible).
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Re: The attack is a pest [Upped] [gold arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55656.msg1156374#msg1156374
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2014, 11:18:49 pm »
OOOOH! YES! I'll save this. My first 20K score in the game was by my favorite deck fractal devourers empathic bond as a trio. I worked at making it for months and it was actually pretty good. Then mitosis came out :/. Anyway you brought it back and theirs no logical change for the fractals to be mitosis. Yahoo. Ill personally change the chimera though to black hole. One discord to precognition, and one improved fog to a second precognition since i only have 1 copy of feral bond, and 1 copy of black hole, then with the changes I get a lot more 1 copy cards so the 2 precognitions work for me in terms of preference.

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