the 30 card godkiller

[The conartist]

How does this deck handle graviton, hermes and morte?

Edit: nevermind, the linked thread has the answers. You've borked the link though; should've used url tags, not ftp.
http://www.kongregate.com/forums/22/topics/61849?page=1

fixed. I have no idea about what ftp tags are though excuse my un-knowledge

[rawr]

Assuming you have to buy everything, the cost for this deck is 1534.  That is about 800 less than popular alternatives.

[Scaredgirl]

If you have actually tried this then you wouldn't be saying that, you would be surprised. Instead of advertising your deck why don't you be a normal part of the discussion, seriously, your deck is very slow. this deck isn't designed to be better or work more thorougly, it is purely a cheap,faster, yet still effective alternative.

Lol, I'm not here to "advertise my deck". I couldn't care less if people play it or not. In fact if that whole sticky post were to be deleted right now I wouldn't even blink. I've moved on from that whole False God scene a long time ago.

I have a CCG background and I am well aware the smaller the deck the better, but it's different with False Gods because they cheat. It's impossible to design a non-upgraded 30 card deck that has a better winning percentage than a 50 card deck simply because non-upgraded cards are much weaker. When I did my False God deck I started with 30 cards but kept adding cards because I saw that it clearly improved my winning percentage. Having tons of cards and drawing tons of cards balances out the fact that non-upgraded cards are so weak.

I haven't tried this exact deck, but I don't need to because I've played plenty of very similar 30 card rainbow decks, and I know exactly what their strengths and weaknesses are. I'm not saying that this deck sucks but it sure as hell doesn't have a 70%+ winning percentage. You said it yourself in your original post, if you face Seism or Rainbow you quit. Of course the effectiveness of grinding will balance out because win or lose, this deck is faster.

What I've seen here and on that other thread, you seem to take this whole deckbuilding way too personally. This isn't a competition you know. Ultimately we should all be looking for decks that work, not to argue about stuff like "my deck is better than your deck!!!". I mean really.. who gives a s***?

[rawr]

I'm not saying that this deck sucks but it sure as hell doesn't have a 70%+ winning percentage.

Added note - Unupped decks should aim for win percentages in the 20% range.

[The conartist]

I have a CCG background and I am well aware the smaller the deck the better, but it's different with False Gods because they cheat. It's impossible to design a non-upgraded 30 card deck that has a better winning percentage than a 50 card deck simply because non-upgraded cards are much weaker. When I did my False God deck I started with 30 cards but kept adding cards because I saw that it clearly improved my winning percentage. Having tons of cards and drawing tons of cards balances out the fact that non-upgraded cards are so weak.

I never said this deck has a better win percentage if you ever cared to read my post you would've seen that this deck isn't designed to be better, or stronger, it is supposed to either win quicky or lose quickly, designed to have "farming efficiency". So instead of saying that I take stuff way too personally(that ruining my day thing was a joke, of course you can't tell jokes from actual statements), and deciding to 'knock it before you try it' can you be a good little girl?. It isn't all about win percentage. Remember that.

[jmizzle7]

Everyone relax. The deck is a "get the job done" kind of deck. It is good enough to win against the gods that most false god decks should be able to beat (FQ, Miracle, Incarnate, CL, etc.), and you can start very early due to the low cost of the deck. While SG's unupped deck has a better overall win ratio, this one can be built sooner. You can play either one.

[Tigerente]

Just a thought, but isn't parallel universe the card for unupped decks against the False Gods, because the cards you duplicate are either your hard hitters or upgraded cards from the fallen gods? This plus that PU really helps against some of the FG.
I probably would try with 2-3 PU in an unupgraded deck in order to have one early.

[Scaredgirl]

I'd just like to mention that after FURTHER testing, this deck only has maybe a 1% higher win percentage than larger time based rainbow decks when unupgraded.

I know you are just trolling but I'm going to answer anyways in case some newbie actually believes you.

When you say this deck has a better overall winning percentage, you are LYING. You are lying because of the same reason you are always lying: Anti-Scaredgirl trolling.

Like I said before, these non-upgraded 30 card decks can be faster in some situations but they are not always fast (like when the Fallen Elf is on the bottom of the deck), and the overall winning percentage is MUCH lower than with about 50 cards.

I belong in that group of handful of players who have actually TESTED both of these decks and know the percentages. And I'm not talking about playing a couple of matches, I'm talking about playing HUNDREDS.

Menthollove is trolling as usual and I doubt he has even played this kind of deck.

For players who took Eternity and don't mind a lower winning percentage, this deck is a good choice.

[jmizzle7]

SG is right about the winning percentages. Kurona actually said that he quits to menu if he plays against Rainbow, Hermes, Seism, or Graviton with this deck. This saves time so he can fight the other seven false gods that he can beat. The problem with this strategy is you lose 30 electrum ~36% of the time by default, which is a ton of electrum if you aren't having luck at the slots. This deck, while cheaper and faster to build than the SG deck, is a gamble that will either pay off extremely well or will turn into a liability. It is a decent stepping stone into an Entropy mark upped false god farmer, though.

I have tested this deck as well, and the points I made above are based on Kurona's findings backed up by my own results.

[Demagog]

Power of small decks is based on Supernovas and this deck doesn't have any, so it will get absolutely destroyed in many matches.

My 34 card rainbow (and when it was only 30 cards) has no supernovas (or novas) in it, and it beats every god, and only has trouble with scorpio, rainbow, and seism (about 50% against each). Granted, I just changed it, so the percentages may have changed (removed a FFQ and put in another oty).

[The conartist]

SG is right about the winning percentages. Kurona actually said that he quits to menu if he plays against Rainbow, Hermes, Seism, or Graviton with this deck. This saves time so he can fight the other seven false gods that he can beat. The problem with this strategy is you lose 30 electrum ~36% of the time by default, which is a ton of electrum if you aren't having luck at the slots. This deck, while cheaper and faster to build than the SG deck, is a gamble that will either pay off extremely well or will turn into a liability. It is a decent stepping stone into an Entropy mark upped false god farmer, though.

I have tested this deck as well, and the points I made above are based on Kurona's findings backed up by my own results.

This is what I've been trying to say! Except I am stupid

[Scaredgirl]

Power of small decks is based on Supernovas and this deck doesn't have any, so it will get absolutely destroyed in many matches.

My 34 card rainbow (and when it was only 30 cards) has no supernovas (or novas) in it, and it beats every god, and only has trouble with scorpio, rainbow, and seism (about 50% against each). Granted, I just changed it, so the percentages may have changed (removed a FFQ and put in another oty).

We are talking about non-upgraded deck here.

I'm guessing yours is upgraded since it has "about 50% against" Scorpio, Rainbow and Seism.