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Re: "The (Anti-Platinum) Deck" (work in progress) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28728.msg367434#msg367434
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2011, 04:21:02 pm »
This deck seems like it'd win more from deckouts than damage, so I'd not put in a frog. They're rather fragile if you do use them for damage, plus there's he fact that they only do one more than the much more resilient phoenix.
Agreed, i have tried this deck and 75% of the time it wins by deckout or wins just before deckout, i havent yet won a game with more than 10 cards in my hand or the opponents. So far for me it is working well against gold, but i think on platinum you may have to tweak it a bit more, use more PA for towers because of quicksand. I have gone 12 wins 4 losses with this deck against gold with 2 rare spins. Against platinum i have won 5 and lost 2 not winning any rare spins. All in all it is a fairly good deck and when it does win it often EM's.

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Re: "The (Anti-Platinum) Deck" (work in progress) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28728.msg367475#msg367475
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2011, 06:34:45 pm »
Agreed, i have tried this deck and 75% of the time it wins by deckout or wins just before deckout, i havent yet won a game with more than 10 cards in my hand or the opponents.
Wouldn't this imply that Mindgates aren't a good card for this deck?

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Re: "The (Anti-Platinum) Deck" (work in progress) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28728.msg367484#msg367484
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2011, 06:54:18 pm »
Agreed, i have tried this deck and 75% of the time it wins by deckout or wins just before deckout, i havent yet won a game with more than 10 cards in my hand or the opponents.
Wouldn't this imply that Mindgates aren't a good card for this deck?
Theoretically, but they make great explosion fodder, plus they have the ability to pick up some of the 12 steals/explosions/other annoting permanents that a lot of platinum decks are bound to have.
Strike that, reverse it.

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Re: "The (Anti-Platinum) Deck" (work in progress) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28728.msg367523#msg367523
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2011, 08:14:39 pm »
Yeah, most games that I won with this deck, it was usually when I was almost out of cards, but not quite.  Mindgate enough creatures and stuff and you'll usually win eventually.

A good trick if you Mindgate a Steal is to wait a turn, and then steal back whatever the AI steals from you.  (assuming it's a card you care about)  Knowing AI priority for what it steals first can play into this as well.  I don't know all the orders yet, but it likes to take Eternity before anything else, then Hourglasses, then Mindgates.  99% of the time it does things in a certain order, but the AI does occasionally break that order; I lost one game because I played a Pulverizer thinking it was safe with an Hourglass on the board, and the AI stole my Pulverizer and ignored the hourglass.

I do think that this deck needs a lot of work still.  However, the general idea of trying to find the best 'antiplatinum' deck seems to me to be a solid one.  By anticipating the most common platinum decks and designing a deck specifically built to fight those, it should be possible to get some pretty nice electrum, and rare spins.

 

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