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Re: Surprise Blitz https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18748.msg246652#msg246652
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2011, 03:29:41 pm »
Yes, potential three turn wins if you get the perfect draw.

3 supernova
1 air tower
1 aether tower
1 sky blitz
1 fractal
2 ball lightning

Sundials/precognitions can replace any of those cards except for all three supernovas or a tower, as long as those cards are drawn. Sundials would be played on the second turn.

No four turn wins against FGs because you need both a chimera and voodoo in addition to the above in the same time. Five turns at best if you go second.


Seems like a very powerful deck. It's effectively only 18 cards, with seven or eight of those drawn on the first turn and sundials stalling for the remaining turns needed to draw the entire combo.

The only weaknesses seem to be bad draws of no supernovas and an early pest draining your entropy quanta. But these are common problems with most decks.

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Re: Surprise Blitz https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18748.msg246746#msg246746
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2011, 07:00:48 pm »
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You have almost reached perfection with your deck. I made some little changes. Upgrade Chimera. No reason to keep it that way.
 You don't need 2 Sky Blitz and Fractals, the only reason to have 2 copies of them is to get your combo faster, after I few matches I found myself discarding them. Instead I added a Wind Tower and a Voodoo Doll. Thanks to this you might be able to cast the combo with only 3 supernovas.

And guess what. 100/0 Chimera kills a player. 100/20 Chimera kills a fake god.
How does 100/20 kill a Fake God? Chimera has Gravity Pull on itself so I don't see how it can get past the hoard of creatures...

Re: Surprise Blitz https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18748.msg246822#msg246822
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2011, 09:12:31 pm »
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You have almost reached perfection with your deck. I made some little changes. Upgrade Chimera. No reason to keep it that way.
 You don't need 2 Sky Blitz and Fractals, the only reason to have 2 copies of them is to get your combo faster, after I few matches I found myself discarding them. Instead I added a Wind Tower and a Voodoo Doll. Thanks to this you might be able to cast the combo with only 3 supernovas.

And guess what. 100/0 Chimera kills a player. 100/20 Chimera kills a fake god.
How does 100/20 kill a Fake God? Chimera has Gravity Pull on itself so I don't see how it can get past the hoard of creatures...
I was wondering the same thing.

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Re: Surprise Blitz https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18748.msg246835#msg246835
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2011, 09:35:57 pm »
Probably means 100/20 CAN kill a FG, but 100/0 cant because it will die after it attacks.

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Re: Surprise Blitz https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18748.msg246943#msg246943
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2011, 12:10:20 am »
How does 100/20 kill a Fake God? Chimera has Gravity Pull on itself so I don't see how it can get past the hoard of creatures...
I was wondering the same thing.
Well, I said CAN not WILL. I realized that this concept is worth testing. It would be a nice alternative to the Voodoo doll combo deck with similar speed. Sadly, there are is just to many things that can go wrong here. After testing some variations I decided that is not good enough. I tend to be overoptimistic at times. Nonetheless, my variation of this deck will not lose against a single SoD, so I really recommend it for PvP.

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Re: Surprise Blitz https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18748.msg247412#msg247412
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2011, 04:54:35 pm »
This is a rainbow version of smuglapse's deck

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Re: Surprise Blitz https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18748.msg248916#msg248916
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2011, 08:32:35 am »
Only one problem. Chimera is not airborne so Sky Blitz is useless. Or the other way round.

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Re: Surprise Blitz https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18748.msg248918#msg248918
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2011, 08:37:50 am »
Only one problem. Chimera is not airborne so Sky Blitz is useless. Or the other way round.
Blitz the Fractaled Ball Lightnings, THEN Chimera them.
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Re: Surprise Blitz https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18748.msg248978#msg248978
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2011, 11:21:07 am »
So... what is the Voodoo Doll for in Veru's variant? I'm missing something here... ?

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Re: Surprise Blitz https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18748.msg248980#msg248980
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2011, 11:28:31 am »
It's there so that the chimera doesn't die the turn it is played, and also makes it more resilient to CC.

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Re: Surprise Blitz https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18748.msg248982#msg248982
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2011, 11:36:18 am »
oh! lol. I get it now.

Seems like by the time this gets played, the other side of the board will surely have more than 20 attack though, so ... meh. On the other hand, I suppose if they dont have enough attack, you can play a two turn combo early on in the match tho... yea, ok, I like it.

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Re: Surprise Blitz https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18748.msg256822#msg256822
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2011, 04:40:55 am »
Thanks for the comments everyone, especially Zeru. That variant deck you came up was a good improvement against SoD.

 

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