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vice123

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Statistics on 43 Rainbow God Deck - 80% win rate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=489.msg4514#msg4514
« on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:52 pm »
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 I made an experiment - I played 150 games with the (old) alaska deck of 42 cards vs the False Gods. I threw a pulvy in the deck because of it's overwhelming awesomeness. Following are a pic of the deck and the stats.

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6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u6 6u6 717 717 71b 71b 74b 74b 77f 7am 7am 7do 7do 7do 7n3 7q5 7q5 7q8 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7t9 7t9 7t9 8pj



God           | win | loss |  %
Chaos Lord   17     0     100.00
Fire Queen   14     0     100.00
Gemini         13     4     76.47
Graviton        5     6     45.45
Hermes        13     2     86.67
Incarnate      7     0     100.00
Miracle        14     1     93.33
Morte           8     1     88.89
Rainbow        6     3     66.67
Scorpio         9     6     60.00
Seism         14     7     66.67

total:        120    30   80.00
average win/loss%: 80.38


 150 games may not be much given there are 11 opponents, but it got somewhat boring. Notice the below 50% win rate with graviton - I leave it to bad luck/bad draws, would probably stick around 70% if I had more games with him. I wish I had recorded the card winnings as well, would be a nice statistic on the side.

 Overall a very solid deck, guaranteed victory vs 4 of the gods and wins more often than not vs the rest.


« Last Edit: June 15, 2012, 07:47:19 pm by willng3 »

Celidion

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Statistics on 43 Rainbow God Deck - 80% win rate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=489.msg4515#msg4515
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:52 pm »

Nice deck, but are the Hourglasses really necessary? I've seen a lot of successful 40 card rainbows with no hourglasses.

Chival

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Statistics on 43 Rainbow God Deck - 80% win rate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=489.msg4516#msg4516
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:52 pm »

yeah i would take out 1 steal and both hourglasses

vice123

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Statistics on 43 Rainbow God Deck - 80% win rate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=489.msg4517#msg4517
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:52 pm »

 Hourglasses are very helpful in this particular deck, I would say it's better with them rather without. Steals and pulvy make not only for quicker fights but actually helped me beat most gods by getting early permanent control.
 That said, I will try a smaller deck with an anubis to see how it plays out.

Fufinski

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Statistics on 43 Rainbow God Deck - 80% win rate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=489.msg4518#msg4518
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:52 pm »

I had most of the upgraded cards for this deck in hand and did it. So far I'm quite happy with it, it's working much better than any other god-killing deck I've tried for me.

I recommend you try to aim to build this particular deck if you are on a tight budget.

Cisco

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Statistics on 43 Rainbow God Deck - 80% win rate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=489.msg4519#msg4519
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:52 pm »

This deck has been around shortly after scaredgirl posted hers. I run the same version with my own tweaking and am pretty much at the same % maybe a a bit higher, although can´t really say since I havn´t kept statistics. the new alaska version is supposed to be better.  I couldn´t tell any diffrence from % wise though.

vice123

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Statistics on 43 Rainbow God Deck - 80% win rate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=489.msg4520#msg4520
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:52 pm »

 I encourage you to start recording your games if you have any interest in various deck's performance. It's pointless to argue which deck is better if there is a statistic, the rest is tweaking it to your own taste. I, for one, prefer quicker games even at the cost of a few less wins.
 About the deck - as far as I know it's what alaska made of his original deck after the introduction of dials (except the pulvy). I don't think any of Scaredgirl's upgraded decks can stand up to this one.
 I decided to test alaska's deck because it would make a good reference point - it's quite popular, has great performance and a decently small deck size (less cards to up for new players). On the down side it requires 2 rares (eternity and pulvy is what I used for testing) and the fact that it probably would suck unupgraded.

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Statistics on 43 Rainbow God Deck - 80% win rate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=489.msg4800#msg4800
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:53 pm »
I encourage you to start recording your games if you have any interest in various deck's performance. It's pointless to argue which deck is better if there is a statistic, the rest is tweaking it to your own taste. I, for one, prefer quicker games even at the cost of a few less wins.
 About the deck - as far as I know it's what alaska made of his original deck after the introduction of dials (except the pulvy). I don't think any of Scaredgirl's upgraded decks can stand up to this one.
 I decided to test alaska's deck because it would make a good reference point - it's quite popular, has great performance and a decently small deck size (less cards to up for new players). On the down side it requires 2 rares (eternity and pulvy is what I used for testing) and the fact that it probably would suck unupgraded.
Actually I believe Alaska had something like discussed on this thread: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,121.msg673#msg673 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,121.msg673#msg673)



See, no Sundials.

This deck you have here, only recently became powerful. Before the Sundial fix, this deck wouldn't have been as effective, because you wouldn't have been able to draw as many cards. Don't believe me, go test in trainer.

My statistics after 200 games were done BEFORE the Sundial fix, with partly non-upgraded deck, and with less understanding how AI plays. If I did the same test today, results would be very different.

EDIT: Also I'd like to add that I'm not surprised by your score against Graviton. Despite what some people like to say, Graviton is not a chump and is not "easy" like some other Gods are.

Levgre

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Statistics on 43 Rainbow God Deck - 80% win rate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=489.msg4801#msg4801
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:53 pm »

I dunno, I find graviton to be pretty easy... maybe tied with morte, a lot easier than scorpio or seism. 

The thing is he is completely predictable, so if your deck can work around him then there is no problem.  But I guess in a larger deck you don't draw as many sundials, which can negate any gravity pulls he has.

vice123

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Statistics on 43 Rainbow God Deck - 80% win rate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=489.msg4802#msg4802
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:53 pm »

 The deck that you linked is not the alaska deck that I know of. Must have missed it if he ever played it, I don't do top50 often. I checked the wiki - it's the one posted there I was referring to.
 On the sundials - I couldn't agree more. They are what they are, what else is there to say? I would love to see some scores of your games and the deck you got them with, just for comparison.
 I never said graviton is "easy" - he's just not below 50% material. Medium at best is what I'd use.

CB!

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Statistics on 43 Rainbow God Deck - 80% win rate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=489.msg4803#msg4803
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:53 pm »

I played this deck for a while this morning, and while I was winning quite often, most were not mastery wins.  The deck I use (I think posted in the false-god farming deck thread) gets a mastery win 90% of the time I win.  And with 2 shards of divinity you get 140 electrum per win.  On average, I can upgrade a card per 20 games I play, just from my winnings.  Just my thoughts anyway.

Scaredgirl

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Statistics on 43 Rainbow God Deck - 80% win rate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=489.msg4804#msg4804
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:53 pm »

The deck that you linked is not the alaska deck that I know of. Must have missed it if he ever played it, I don't do top50 often. I checked the wiki - it's the one posted there I was referring to.
 On the sundials - I couldn't agree more. They are what they are, what else is there to say? I would love to see some scores of your games and the deck you got them with, just for comparison.
 I never said graviton is "easy" - he's just not below 50% material. Medium at best is what I'd use.
You mean this one? http://elementsthegame.wikia.com/wiki/Alaska%27s_deck (http://elementsthegame.wikia.com/wiki/Alaska%27s_deck) . No Sundials in that one either.

Lol, I'm not going to do those 200 matches again. :) First time was too much and I almost gave up after something like 150 matches. I'm sure my winning percentage would improve with upgraded deck and fixed Sundials, but I don't know if I can get it as high as 80%. Probably easier with smaller deck and Eternity because you get less bad opening hands. I don't know..

I haven't fought Gods with that rainbow deck in a long time. I've been just playing around with trainer or lurking here on the forums.

 

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