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Speedbow Without Quantum Towers, Say What? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11972.msg148305#msg148305
« on: August 29, 2010, 02:36:04 am »
This deck is the compilation of ideas by myself, hrmmm, and Nume about making a fast speedbow using entropy towers to be able to play supernovas the first turn, speeding the deck up.  With Nume's idea of adding in entropy pendalums with a time mark to allow more procogs/hourglass to get novas quicker the deck started to work quite well.

For version 2 I record a ttw of 6.168 and an EM rate of 10%.  Yes, the 1 dagger is worth a 10% EM rate.

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Re: Speedbow Without Quantum Towers, Say What? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11972.msg148308#msg148308
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2010, 02:41:19 am »
...?

Why use entropy pendulums?  A pillar split defends against earthquake, but full pendulums?  Isn't that just... pointless?

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Re: Speedbow Without Quantum Towers, Say What? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11972.msg148311#msg148311
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2010, 02:54:35 am »
...?

Why use entropy pendulums?  A pillar split defends against earthquake, but full pendulums?  Isn't that just... pointless?
That should have been a time mark, lol.  The entropy helps get the novas out, while the time helps run precogs speeding up the deck.  This builds definately needs the pendalums to work.

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Re: Speedbow Without Quantum Towers, Say What? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11972.msg148313#msg148313
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2010, 03:01:00 am »
Ooohhhh....

Makes sense.

But with four pillars, I worry S.novas will be too inconsistent, especially since mark won't save you.  Honestly, I think the deck would be fine with entropy mark and pillars =/


Also:  Morning glory?  Vampire dagger is a way better weapon.  Course, you'll need a replacement for the glory, and looking at your deck, your quanta spread is so good that's hard to find.

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Re: Speedbow Without Quantum Towers, Say What? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11972.msg148321#msg148321
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2010, 03:16:49 am »
I have tried it with vampire dagger, pegasus, and werewolf in place of morning glory, gargoyle, and unstable gas, but i liked this version better. also with 4 pendelums, you still have ~90 percent or higher chance of getting one in starting hand due to auto mulligan. You only need the one, and your set for the game, so it works better than you'd think.

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Re: Speedbow Without Quantum Towers, Say What? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11972.msg148322#msg148322
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2010, 03:18:53 am »
I had noticed that.  Still, I feel it'd be sped up with another pendulum.  Maybe instead of that hourglass?

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Re: Speedbow Without Quantum Towers, Say What? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11972.msg148323#msg148323
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2010, 03:20:56 am »
Nah you really dont want pendelums after that first. The only benefit would be less chance of not starting with one. After that, supernovas easily power the deck. The hourglass is nice bc it lets you play 2 creature per turn if you draw it, and you generally have tons of time.

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Re: Speedbow Without Quantum Towers, Say What? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11972.msg148331#msg148331
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2010, 03:51:13 am »
Lol I was bored so I played some FGs with this. Here is a screenshot of me beating Decay:
(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd83001/Decay.bmp) (http://imageplay.net/)If I fight anymore and win I'll post them here for the lulz :P. And btw no this is deck is not designed for use against FGs. Please dont try this at home :P.

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Re: Speedbow Without Quantum Towers, Say What? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11972.msg148480#msg148480
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2010, 03:40:24 pm »
I tried to rush a FG in trainers and failed epically.

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Re: Speedbow Without Quantum Towers, Say What? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11972.msg148677#msg148677
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2010, 08:57:59 pm »
I tried to rush a FG in trainers and failed epically.
Yeah, it only works a small % of the time.  Maybe  < 10%.

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Re: Speedbow Without Quantum Towers, Say What? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11972.msg150141#msg150141
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2010, 02:38:25 pm »
never thaught of making a speedbow with time mark for even more speed.
tested it and worked good for me
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Re: Speedbow Without Quantum Towers, Say What? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11972.msg150259#msg150259
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2010, 07:40:22 pm »
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