Small Otydeck - AI5 and FG-farming

[Getawu2]

Deck Helper comment: 
This deck was posted before the 1.32 game update and as a result may work very differently now.  Use at your own risk.


Mark is Gravity

Well, I have been testing a 30 card - Otydeck even before the sundial nerf but ended with a 60 card one (as can still be seen in the FG-section).
After the nerf I tried some variations and ended up with this. I replaced the Feral Bonds with Shard of Gratitude, as they are better in early game and reduce the need of Life quanta (FFQ and FD need enough of it; though you get less EMs). Gravity as a mark (in a deck without Hourglasses and Supernovas) assures that you can eat your opponents creatures or destroy his shields/weapons with your pulverizer, even if you have no pillars (because of quicksands for example).

As the deck has nothing to draw cards it needs two of every key card - expect Eternity which is mainly meant to prevent decking out. It needs a relativly high amount of Pillars, too, but I think the balance is ok now.

I use this deck against FG and AI5 - it has an almost 100 % win rate against AI5 (IIRC I only lost against immortal creatures once or twice and because of decking out once and due to Fire Storms / Plagues once or twice which can be normaly prevented by playing only 2 creatures). Concerning FG it has some problems against Scorpio and Rainbow and even Morte if he get's an early Arsenic, but I'm thinking of adding Quintessence when it's available to protect one or two Otyughs which may help. I haven't made statistics against FG yet, but it may win perhaps about 50 % (but that was mainly played with FB instead of SoG). Of course you can play the deck with FBs instead of the SoG - I would take 2 of them and a Phase Shield or third Bone Wall in that case. I don't know if it works unupgraded, but I think you really need the upgraded Otyughs.

edit: the version with sundials I'm using against FGs atm: I started statistics against FG before 1.17 and had a win rate of about 70 % (20 games) may be a bit less with the new version against some gods.




edit: As the imagehoster doesn't show the images anymore and the deck is still a great AI5-farmer and good FG-deck, I repost the deck codes (and hope I remember them correctly)

30-card-version:

Hover over cards for details, click for permalink

Deck import code : [Select]

6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6u6 6u6 71b 71b 74b 74b 74b 74b 77f 77f 7am 7ba 7ba 7ba 7ba 7do 7do 7n3 7n3 7q8 8pl

With quints:

Hover over cards for details, click for permalink

Deck import code : [Select]

6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6u6 6u6 71b 71b 74b 74b 74b 74b 77f 77f 7am 7ba 7ba 7ba 7ba 7do 7do 7n3 7n3 7q8 80h 80h 80h 8pl

With sundials:

Hover over cards for details, click for permalink

Deck import code : [Select]

6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6u6 6u6 71b 71b 74b 74b 74b 74b 77f 77f 7am 7ba 7ba 7ba 7ba 7do 7do 7n3 7n3 7q8 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 80h 80h 80h 8pl

Feral Bond may be replaced with another Tower

[Kamietsu]

I believe i have all those cards (unupped except for a few) Ill give it a try so and tell you how well it worked unupped.

[kulssung]

After reading your experience with the deck, I come to like it also, especially its "slimness". I have most of the cards in the deck except the SoGs (sidenote: which AI is the best to farm for shards?).

Please keep us updated on how it performs and any revisions you make to the deck.

[Celidion]

After reading your experience with the deck, I come to like it also, especially its "slimness". I have most of the cards in the deck except the SoGs (sidenote: which AI is the best to farm for shards?).

Please keep us updated on how it performs and any revisions you make to the deck.

No AI has SoG's, it was a reward for donation. A few people have SoG's in Top 50.

[kulssung]

After reading your experience with the deck, I come to like it also, especially its "slimness". I have most of the cards in the deck except the SoGs (sidenote: which AI is the best to farm for shards?).

Please keep us updated on how it performs and any revisions you make to the deck.

No AI has SoG's, it was a reward for donation. A few people have SoG's in Top 50.

Does any AI drop the regular un-upg shard? If not, is it going to become available in the near future?

[Celidion]

After reading your experience with the deck, I come to like it also, especially its "slimness". I have most of the cards in the deck except the SoGs (sidenote: which AI is the best to farm for shards?).

Please keep us updated on how it performs and any revisions you make to the deck.

No AI has SoG's, it was a reward for donation. A few people have SoG's in Top 50.

Does any AI drop the regular un-upg shard? If not, is it going to become available in the near future?

I doubt it, I'm pretty sure they will remain donation or Top 50 only.

[kulssung]

Ah okay, thanks for clearing that up 

[Celidion]

No problem, also why don't you use graveyards. They're better than Queens in most cases and are cheaper. Just some food for though.

[Getawu2]

No problem, also why don't you use graveyards. They're better than Queens in most cases and are cheaper. Just some food for though.

Well, there are a lot of reasons, though I have to admit they were one of the last cards I threw out of the deck.

- I need the quanta for the Bone Walls - and don't have anything else that uses Air Quanta
- I don't use Sundials or Phase Shields or Feral Bonds - I devour enemy creatures right away without slowing the game down before I use Fire Storm (though they are in the deck for a backup and to make large creatures eatable) - so FFQ produces creatures as fast as a Graveyard and doesn't depend on enemy creatures. And without Feral Bonds one 4-2 Firefly is about as good as 2 2-2 Skeletons, depending on the shields may be even better.
- FFQ is a creature. So it can be freezed and gravity pulled and lobotomized and hitten by Lightnings or Fire Bolts to protect the Otys and FDs. Quiet an advantage to graveyards in many situations.

So, if you don't use SoGs you might replace the FFQs by Graveyards or add them - and if you are mainly facing False Gods. But especially against AI5 with it's Lightnings FFQ is much better.

[Celidion]

No problem, also why don't you use graveyards. They're better than Queens in most cases and are cheaper. Just some food for though.

Well, there are a lot of reasons, though I have to admit they were one of the last cards I threw out of the deck.

- I need the quanta for the Bone Walls - and don't have anything else that uses Air Quanta
- I don't use Sundials or Phase Shields or Feral Bonds - I devour enemy creatures right away without slowing the game down before I use Fire Storm (though they are in the deck for a backup and to make large creatures eatable) - so FFQ produces creatures as fast as a Graveyard and doesn't depend on enemy creatures. And without Feral Bonds one 4-2 Firefly is about as good as 2 2-2 Skeletons, depending on the shields may be even better.
- FFQ is a creature. So it can be freezed and gravity pulled and lobotomized and hitten by Lightnings or Fire Bolts to protect the Otys and FDs. Quiet an advantage to graveyards in many situations.

So, if you don't use SoGs you might replace the FFQs by Graveyards or add them - and if you are mainly facing False Gods. But especially against AI5 with it's Lightnings FFQ is much better.

Oh okay, thanks for the explanation. I forgot you don't use bonds so it makes sense.

[Getawu2]

As it's now available, I added 2 Quintessence to my deck (so it's 32 cards now) - gave my an easy win against Rainbow right now (and Fire Queen the game before), that really seems to be a good support to that deck.

edit: Quintessence helped me to win against Obliterator (making a FFQ immortal and drawing the gravity pulls to the Fireflys works well against him) and some other gods, too. Though it makes the deck a bit slower against opponents without creature control.

Oh yeah, and the deck has no chance against Devine Glory.

[Essence]

I started playing this deck yesterday, and I loved it!  I made a few modifications, of course, but I've beaten 80% of the FG's I've played with it.   The lack of sundials is barely noticable.

My final deck includes everything in the 32-card deck mentioned above, plus 3 Electrum Hourglasses, 1 Bone Wall, 2 Quantum Towers -- oh, but I forgot that I replaced 2 SoG with Feral Bonds because I needed more health/turn in the late game.

That said, with Mark of Gravity and several Otys/Pulvs, its easy to gain control of the field, and that's really the critical element.  Quintessence really is a key addition to the deck.  In my mind, at least, this is an excellent replacement for the "ultimate" godkiller.